Tuesday, 12 March 2019

The CatholicTV Network Hidden: A Life All for God The Trappistine Sisters at Mount Saint Mary's Abbey in Wrentham, MA lead simple consecrated lives of prayer as lived in the heart of the Church for all their brothers and sisters in the world. This documentary offers a glimpse of their daily lives.

The CatholicTV Network Hidden: A Life All for God The Trappistine Sisters at Mount Saint Mary's Abbey in Wrentham, MA lead simple consecrated lives of prayer as lived in the heart of the Church for all their brothers and sisters in the world. This documentary offers a glimpse of their daily lives.


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it is 3 o'clock in the morning and the
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sisters of the order of the Cistercians
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of the strict observance or Travis teens
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as they are commonly called
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are beginning their day a rhythm of life
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rooted in prayer reading and studying
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Sacred Scripture
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Lexi o Divina as it is called and work
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all of it steeped in a deep
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contemplative tradition of silence and
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solitude these Trappist een sisters live
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their lives in obscurity hidden from the
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world in a life that is as mysterious as
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it is genuine and all for only one
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reason God
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the monastic rule of Saint Benedict
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dating back to the fifth century is the
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foundation of life at Mount Saint Mary's
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Abbey located about 40 miles southwest
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of Boston life here is a continual
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prayer whether meditating and praying in
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church spending time in Lexi o Divina in
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the quiet early morning hours of the day
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or working in their state-of-the-art
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high-tech candy factory
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everything is centered on fostering
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a deep personal relationship with Jesus
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Christ this really is a way of having
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nothing in the world but God there is
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the sense that this is where this is
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where I can find God this is where I can
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grow towards him he's my companion I
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mean it's not that I see him he's always
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with me it's in my heart he's in he's in
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my sisters he's in what happens God
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would be the one in my life someone
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names the one reality before all other
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day and today night on tonight season
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after season life for the Trappist teens
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is disciplined and yet remarkably
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routine all of it filled with an
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extraordinary Wonder and awe of God
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ever-present part of the air they
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breathe a divine presence which is
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unmistakable and permanent life in this
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cloistered monastery is all about
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preferring nothing but Jesus Christ
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living in what the sisters call a school
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of mutual love trying to find Christ in
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every moment of every day so it's not
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like as if you're living up in the sky
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but it does have a magic to it I mean it
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is a little bit of heaven it is truly
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and I think that it really makes you
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realize more and more that there is such
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a place as heaven because it has begun a
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little bit here and now when you
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followed the cold you believe you have
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to be happy whether you're single or
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married or religious or consecrated life
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because that's that's what you're made
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for I come from being independent an
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achiever and to a place where a lot of
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those things have to be let go so that I
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can become white not somebody who does
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but somebody who just is and that
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transition is is hard
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but the balance comes when I ask myself
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why did you come it's him
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what do you seek
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it's him why'd you stay I can't live
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without him sister Francesca what do you
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seek oh god you are my god for you I
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long for you my soul is thirsting after
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more than a half-dozen years of
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formation here at Mount Saint Mary's
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sister Francesca Maria Molino
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is making her solemn profession this is
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the day she takes what are called her
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final vows to enter fully into the
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community today marks a culmination of
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one thing yes I will follow you and love
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you all the days of my life my heart is
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ready Oh God my heart is ready the
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desire to be with God they would be on
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the no other reason to leave everything
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to leave your family to leave a good job
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I had everything I could want I I lacked
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nothing and yet it wasn't enough I
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wanted to know God to really know God to
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really dedicate all my energy to that
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and how how to do that and then God
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provided me with provided me with this
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vocation you have to give up these
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things you get attached to just to go
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into unknown spaces where God is and
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that's probably the hardest will you
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strive constantly for perfect love of
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God and neighbor by zealously following
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the Gospels and the rule of Our Fathers
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Saint Benedict has lived in this
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community but I know that even being
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here that I'm serving the great needs of
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the world in a very hidden
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but but that is my vocation and I didn't
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choose it I know that for sure it wasn't
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that I decided to enter a monastery it
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was that God asked this of me our God
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offered it to me and I just said yes
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it's a life that's 100 percent community
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and 100 percent solitude not fifty-fifty
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as you grow in it you realize that the
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heart of community and the heart of a
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true solitude is communion with others
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as if God was asking this of me and God
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had a plan for how I could serve the
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world and to know him more closely who
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was I to say I have a better plan thank
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you very much I'll try something else
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will you by the grace of the Holy Spirit
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live for God alone in solitude and
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silence and spend your life with your
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sisters persevering in prayer and
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generous service I will you can have a
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profound communion with others in the
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silence because the silence is about
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communion with God where you're meeting
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Jesus alone and you're meeting Jesus in
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others and but it's always meeting him
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and being with him
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may God who has begun this good work in
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you bring it to fulfillment in the day
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of Christ Jesus
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living a monastic life requires balance
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finding God throughout the day whether
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it is during prayer study or work here
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at Mount st. Mary's the sisters support
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themselves by making candy Trappist een
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quality candy is sold all over the world
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this is a state-of-the-art highly
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regulated facility here the sisters
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change out of their habits into work
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clothing designed to maintain the plants
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sterile environment the mission of
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finding God in all things and sharing in
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the divine work of creation is the
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foundation of their labor I believe very
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strongly that this job that I've been
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given is my way of living out the vows
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that I made to God and to the community
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to serve the community to serve God to
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serve the people of the world to and the
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more difficult it is to do that the more
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it goes against the grain somehow or the
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more it just seems impossible the more
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it's God's Way of leading me forward and
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God's Way of teaching me to lean on him
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which is really placing myself in God's
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hands and so I trust and I believe that
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he has his hand in all of it and in
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order for the life to really work there
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has to be a balance so that is you can't
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pray too much and not work is its
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measured so that the whole day is
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balanced but after a while the life
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becomes a whole I mean at the beginning
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here when you come to the like our life
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you know you can't wait to get finished
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so that you can come into church and
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pray but after a while your prayer
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sleeps and you know it to your work and
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to everything else so that after a while
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it's up you know like a seamless garment
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and oh yeah
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I think that the balance between work
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and prayer is something I'll be learning
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more about in the years to come because
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the longer you're here the more
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responsibilities you assume I'm always
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very edified by the way some sisters
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managed to balance huge responsibilities
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and their prayer life very effortlessly
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I have a feeling that's going to be a
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learning curve for me because I'm a very
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big accomplished
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letting things go or not doing that one
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more thing that I could do is extremely
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challenging for me for me fitting
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together prayer and work is is a huge
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issue in my life and an area where there
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is no little conflict and difficulty
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especially now I think up until now I
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wouldn't say that I found a harmony and
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a balance to my satisfaction it pushes
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the envelope and it makes me realize
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that if I want to be a person of prayer
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and if I want to grow in this continual
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awareness of God's presence which is our
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core then I really need to work for more
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than 60 years candy-making has been the
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main source of income for the sisters
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they came here from Ireland in 1949 back
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then the community relied on bread
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banking and a herd of dairy cows for the
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income they needed that changed in the
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mid 1950s when the sisters terminated
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the bread industry and added the candy
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business to the herd of dairy cows
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four American sisters were among the
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sisters sent from the abbey of Glencairn
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who established the foundation at Mount
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Saint Mary's which became the first
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monastery of Travis teen sisters in the
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United States sister Carol pull ahem is
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the only founder still living I'm 91
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I'll soon be 92 sister Carol remembers
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clearly back then the sisters knew
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nothing about making candy candy we had
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dear friend Joseph Kranz man who first
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helped herself
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it was his candy Department and we had
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any helping us make Carl's we had no
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machinery we just wrapped them by hands
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but we managed to make it and then we
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expanded and then we got very big now in
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the autumn of her life sister Carol
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still finds meaning in the silence and
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solitude of the monastery well first of
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all you have an attraction to God and
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even an intimate relationship with him
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you wouldn't be paired from us
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for any reason whatever you that's your
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life
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life here at the Abbey is a simple one
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seven times during the day
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the sisters gathered together to pray
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vigils begins at 3:20 every morning then
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in what is called the great silence the
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sisters bask in the quiet and devote an
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hour or more to prayer and Alexio Divina
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every day includes the celebration of
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mass to be a little bit more free on
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this and to enter and to link the whole
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phrase together VDC say just try that
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little phrase together sitting down
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singing practices are frequent will
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stand up by the laws here we go
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nothing coming from this have you
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resigned or what here we go
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once a month the sisters joyfully work
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with their giant master father Gabriel a
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Trappist monk from st. Joseph's Abbey in
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nearby Spencer Massachusetts
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okay now two things two things number
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one the ten you rushing oh sure and
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throughout each day the sisters steady
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rhythm of life continues
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I know how much you have been enjoying
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hearing each one's vocations story and
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so today we're going to hear from one of
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our newest members Jennifer good
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afternoon everyone so when I was in the
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fourth grade and at that point I met a
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religious sister for the first time in
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my life and she was a Dominican and
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within the first few weeks of school I
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went home and said to my mother I want
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to be a sister like sister Anthony and
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she was sort of like who are you you
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can't be my child because we are not
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that type of family okay
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and so it's like yes I'm not sure what
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I'm going to do but I want to do
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something big and important for God
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I have long desired to know God more
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deeply and more fully and it's in
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Ephesians to know the love of Christ
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which is beyond understanding and I've
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sort of been holding that with me for
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many months now to know more deeply the
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love of Christ that is beyond
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understanding and I was like I want to
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be a trap Steve I'm like this is it and
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my parents were like you definitely have
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gone crazy
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why are you like like stay in school
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Jennifer the end of their day arrives in
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the early evening and is marked by the
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final period of prayer called complan
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which starts at 7:05
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then off to bed and some seven hours
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later another day of prayer
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Lexi Oh Davina and work will begin each
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sister sleeps in a small room called a
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cell it is austere and uncluttered only
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a crucifix hangs on the wall meals are
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shared together in the monasteries
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refectory while one sister may read
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sacred and inspired writings the
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community eats in silence the formation
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of the sisters is rigorous some come
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here and spend many years discerning
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whether God might be calling them to
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this Cistercian vocation
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instead of interrupting and filling in
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the spaces to be comfortable with what
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seems like gods silence and wait for him
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to say to us what he really wants to say
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because the silences is a big part of
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the conversation it's learning to listen
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until the true words come up these young
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women are in the early stages of
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formation they are learning about the
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demanding discipline involved in fully
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embracing the silence and solitude
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sister Katie McNamara is the director of
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vocations it was very clear to me that
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God was calling me and it came from deep
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inside my heart and there was no way
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that I could say no I have believed from
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the very start as a very young woman
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that I have been called by the greatest
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lover the world has ever known
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into the greatest love affair that has
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ever existed and that once you've fallen
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in love with God there's no way that you
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can't follow
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I cannot imagine living any other way
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except this life here it holds
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everything for me that I have always
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wanted I think I had always been looking
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for it but never really knew where to
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find it and when I stepped across the
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threshold here of this Abbey 25 years
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ago I knew that this is home and that
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this is where I belong the Trappist
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Dean's at Mount Saint Mary's are an
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international community many of the
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journeys ending up here began in many
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different parts of the world I was born
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in England and I grew up in Wales I come
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from a small town in Bavaria originally
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Scotland born and raised until I was 13
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years old I was in Brazil Sao Paulo so
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from Australia
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I come from Queensland but they all
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ended up here knowing one thing for
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certain it was God who called them to
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this life
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in recalling how God touched their lives
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so deeply and so visibly the sisters are
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thoughtful and reflective slow to speak
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what is etched so deeply in their hearts
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you know all of the sisters have very
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little in common except that they've all
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been called to live this life but that's
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so huge that we've all agreed that we
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will come here and do our best to put
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aside everything that does not lead to
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God and to help each other to do that
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it's not really something you can do
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alone
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I'm originally from Wisconsin I'm a
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fairly recent convert to the Catholic
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faith so I had very little religious
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instruction growing up you would say I
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didn't know about prayer I didn't know
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about Scripture I never went to church I
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wasn't baptized all all the rest of that
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I don't know where it came from but I
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always had a deep conviction that there
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was another world other than this one
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that I couldn't see and that there were
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people there waiting for me and that I
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had to figure out how to get there I
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don't know where that came from nobody
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ever would have said anything like that
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to me but I had a clear sense of
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something existing beyond what was in
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front of my face beyond what I could see
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and as I grew up that clarified for me a
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little bit more into not just a world
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but but a person I think you I was
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around seventeen
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when I became aware of a very distinct
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presence in my life that I would call a
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personal presence not just a general but
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a personal and unloving presence all I
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can say is that I knew I knew very much
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that I was loved by someone infinitely
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lovable and although I wouldn't have
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used the word God because I didn't grow
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up with that word I knew that my life
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needed to be about finding out about
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that person and I always promised myself
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that if I ever did find out more about
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that person that I would give up
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everything to to be with him I didn't
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envision I did not envisage this when I
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was thinking about that but for me it
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was all I was always kind of an
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all-or-nothing proposition that this was
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the most important thing in my heart and
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that if I could ever find expression for
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that if I could ever find a place where
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other people knew about that and could
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help me find this person that that would
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be the place where I should be
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and that turned into a monastic vocation
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I grew up in Virginia I grew up with my
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younger brother and younger sister mom
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and dad we were very we're still very
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tight-knit close family I think the seed
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was planted quite young in me at a
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Sunday Mass I was maybe 12 or 13 a woman
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got up at the end of Mass and said we're
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looking for new volunteers we had this
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organization in our parish and we get
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together once a week and we pray and
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there's also a component of service and
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the members also pray the rosary every
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day and my heart was so drawn to that
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and I there was something in me even at
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that age where I really wanted to pray
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more going to Mass wasn't enough going
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to daily Mass wasn't enough going to
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daily Mass and prayer after mass after
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work was not enough I just needed more
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and I know that God has called me here
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and I could live I could get another job
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I could find great housemates again and
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but it wouldn't be enough it wouldn't be
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enough
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I am a Jewish convert we were a
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conservative Jewish family I mean we had
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a kosher home I went to Hebrew school
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but by the time I was a sophomore in
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college it was all put aside I mean I
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wanted nothing to do with it I was
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experiencing intense spiritual hunger
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and I used to walk around and these
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wordless melodies would come up from my
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depths like lamentations I mean I was I
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was crying to God and I didn't know him
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and I was starving my soul was starving
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I was starving for the Eucharist of
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course I didn't know it back then but I
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mean it was God's mercy that really you
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know did it I didn't know what was
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happening it was only in hindsight that
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I that I could see but that was that was
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where he pulled me it was it was an
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inner hunger my vocation really begins
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at the beginning of my life I have to
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say I don't remember a time when I
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didn't have a sense of God have some
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desire for God and while I was in
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college it was the beginning of my
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sophomore year that I first explicitly
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had a sense of call to the religious
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life it happened after a period of of
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searching questioning finding my
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identity as an adult living separately
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from my parents having the opportunity
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for the first time to practice my faith
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of my own volition as it were and coming
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to realize that my desire for God was a
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very significant part of my life and so
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literally one day taking a walk it pops
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into my head why not be a nun and what
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that meant for me at that time really
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when I looked into it was to be
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consecrated to God to belong to God
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that was what I desired when I was a
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very young nun I entered at 19 and deep
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within me I felt he may have been
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calling me to a contemplatively but I
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loved my order and I loved teaching so I
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sort of put it on the back burner and
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then I went to teach in northwestern
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Australia there with the aboriginals
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people and they were just it was just
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heavenly
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they were so simple and I remember it so
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clearly I remember saying to God as I
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walked across the grass and the heat
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very very hot I said to God I'm just so
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happy it was just a beautiful school
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beautiful situation and I heard deep
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within my heart but you haven't given me
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everything yet so I knew that was the
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time that I had to be honest with myself
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and with someone else and speak about it
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to someone else to get guidance and
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that's when the journey towards the
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contemplative life started I was
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discerning what would lie life look like
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if God did rule in me
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and the answer that gradually came to me
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was amazing I would know that God is
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said God lives because he would stand
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with all the power of his mind and
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goodness in my soul and I would
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experience him as the holy one love
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would fulfill its divine destiny between
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God and me alone and yet include all
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mankind this was for me a very
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fundamental thought that would lead me
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towards a search of God and deeper
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spiritual growth and brought me finally
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in touch with a monastic life but I
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loved the silence and the peace and it
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was so beautiful then I had an
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experience of God and that was really
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when I got the book my vocation I mean I
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hadn't visited any religious orders or
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anything but the experience was that him
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God was love God existed and God was
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real if I had wings I would have flown
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away I mean I felt so light and like I
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said it was a new day and and everything
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seemed to change right after college I
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needed something else I was very active
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in my church my parish but it wasn't
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enough I wanted to give more of my life
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not necessarily religious life either I
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just wanted more of me to him but I came
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and I thought this is nice but you
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wouldn't be really calling me to this
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this is not my background this is this
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is not it because I was from the
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charismatic renewal background jump
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dance put your hands up in the air and
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that kind of thing but three years into
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the search and
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visiting different communities I
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couldn't get the place out of my mind
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the image of our outdoor the sisters
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everything just came and it was steady
34:17
but when that image of that altar came
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it was something from in out it was it
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was more than I could resist so I had to
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say yes and take a step forward I had a
34:33
very distinct sense that this was the
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place that Jesus was calling me to it
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happened I wouldn't say the moment I
34:42
walked across the threshold a monastic
34:44
spirituality certain aspects touched me
34:50
in particular but one one most of all
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really and that was as our constitutions
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put it only if the sisters prefer
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nothing whatever to Christ will they be
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happy to persevere in a life that is
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ordinary obscure and laborious and I
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knew when I heard that that I wanted
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nothing more than Christ and that this
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was a place where I could pursue that
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with others who were similarly oriented
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Cistercian spirituality demands the
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sisters take time to pray and also take
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time to work our life is geared to
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finding God in every aspect of our life
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but God just reveals himself in a
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setting like this balance is the key to
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making it all work together our younger
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sisters find it very valuable to do
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strenuous work and to interact with
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living things
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you know I don't see working prayer as
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two very different things
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for me it's like a many-faceted diamond
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and so the Sun shines on maybe working
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in the infirmary maybe working in the
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business office maybe private prayer
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maybe serving someone basically when I
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serve others I feel closer to God in
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prayer
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so when serving when call to even do the
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dishes quietly that to me is being with
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Jesus and that's to me is what prayer is
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about it's like a one beautiful diamond
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that the Sun shines all over the place I
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do find more and more that I don't feel
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work is as separate from prayer as I did
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when I first came here but I think work
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is a very important grounding influence
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for me I like that we do manual labor I
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like that we do things with our hands
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you do something you can feel and touch
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and see Kandee work is is primary the
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the work that we do but so mornings
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usually I do Candi work and then in the
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afternoon it varies I do grounds with
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sister Jane I work with a sheep once a
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week once or twice a week and I have
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what's called a compost of charge which
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I take care of all the buckets with all
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the leftover food and and in the compost
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our work is often very quiet and so and
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simple manual very repetitive types of
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work I very much just frees your mind to
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be able to think about God just to
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really be present if I am coding munch
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am I really present or am I thinking
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about what I'm gonna do when candy work
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is over or this afternoon or tonight or
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what I need to do later do you know am I
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really in this moment and one of the
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beautiful things about
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silence at work is really being able to
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remember I am here to be with God and is
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that what I'm doing in this moment or am
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I thinking about everything else besides
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what would I am doing work and prayer
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aren't separated just because I'm
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working doesn't mean I'm not so
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attentive to God or why I'm in the
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monastery or attentive to my vocation
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I'm a workaholic I love to work so again
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the transition between working out in
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the world and working here is very
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different
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I liked 9 10-hour shifts because I could
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get a lot done here it's two to two and
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a half hour shifts and if you're not
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done at the bell ring you've got to go
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so work becomes a way to prayer so
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sometimes I need it because of the
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physical activity and that helps the
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mind but sometimes it just creates an
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environment that I can just have a
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conversation with God my favorite job is
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the compost charge there's nothing to it
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that will distract me from trying to
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pray and to have that conversation with
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God and even if a little bit of pride
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starts to sneak in all I have to do is
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take a big sniff thank you exactly where
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I am and go back to where I need to be
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I've been falling in love with the
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Psalms and so for me work especially
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because it's not a mind work
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it helps me to to memorize the Psalms
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and she just recite it
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the reality is that the call to love God
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in the cloister of the monastery means
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the Trappist teens will have limited
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contact with anyone beyond the
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boundaries of the abbey that is one of
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the most difficult parts of answering
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the call it was quite difficult and
40:38
painful our family is quite tight-knit
40:42
so to have this profound experience of
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God calling me to something that I
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really couldn't even put into words and
40:51
then to try to explain that to my family
40:54
when on some level all they could see
40:58
was I'm leaving you know I'm leaving and
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there's going to be this great
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separation and I can't I can't talk to
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you whenever I want to I can't visit you
41:09
whenever I want to I can't I mean it was
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quite painful it was quite painful I
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didn't know I'd be so lonely when I came
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loneliness has led me closer to Jesus
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because he's helping me in those moments
41:31
so when anyone asks me why did you do it
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there's only one reason in my life and
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the reason is love it's why I entered at
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the beginning when I was young it's why
41:43
I followed this vocation which I didn't
41:46
realize would be quite as hard leaving
41:48
my country as it was and remember my my
41:51
mother was very upset because she said
41:53
you're leaving your country your family
41:55
the audio love for something you know
41:57
nothing about and I said yes because I
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know the reason is love and the love of
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Jesus obviously and that's what's held
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me all the way along and the ups and
42:10
downs the valleys and the mountains and
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the rivers that we've had to cross but
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he's the call love so that wherever I've
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been on the journey of life he's been
42:19
waiting there even if I wonder a little
42:21
bit he'll be there waiting to call me
42:23
back and so that's the reason and that's
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why I'm here living a regimented life of
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silence and solitude is not easy
42:35
confronting and embracing the silence is
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a significant challenge that was
42:43
something that attracted me before I
42:45
came it was also something that
42:47
terrified me in some way when I was an
42:50
observer I came for six weeks to live
42:54
with the sisters before entering to have
42:56
an experience of the life more
42:58
intimately and during that time I was
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struck with a mortal terror solitude and
43:04
silence and of and of the kind of
43:07
integrity that that demands there is a
43:10
real responsibility I mean there's a
43:12
formation that comes but at that time it
43:15
was a moment of fear and trembling and
43:17
and just this deep down conviction that
43:20
this is the way this is the way walk in
43:23
it were formed not to be afraid to be
43:26
silent together
43:27
it's a solitude of the heart not of the
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body and
43:33
and you carry it around with you all the
43:35
time for me I love it I love it when I'm
43:42
alone something happens inside your
43:48
heart that you become almost true to
43:56
yourself true to myself
43:58
I love being hidden I want to be hidden
44:02
in God's heart that's where I live
44:04
that's where I want to be the sisters
44:08
all confess that another reality of
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their life is confronting their own
44:13
weaknesses and the ever-present duty to
44:17
grow in virtue the toughest part is to
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see yourself so clearly to see
44:35
to see everything in yourself that is
44:38
not yet converted and that might not be
44:41
for a long time if ever this this side
44:45
of the grave to see that and to trust
44:50
still that you are loved not just by God
44:54
but by your sisters who see it too it's
44:57
it's there for everyone to see to trust
45:00
also in their mercy and their compassion
45:03
going into those unknowns when God's
45:07
will
45:08
reveals itself is something different
45:11
it's like jumping off a cliff you know
45:14
and obedience is a really central thing
45:19
where you we really believe in faith
45:22
that your life is not your own the most
45:28
difficult part is being called beyond my
45:32
comfort zone
45:33
in terms of interpersonal relationships
45:39
which reveal
45:50
which reveal that which in me is in the
45:56
way which prevents me from loving my
46:00
sisters as I should one of the most
46:04
difficult things is just accepting
46:06
yourself as you are before God and
46:09
growing always growing growing can be
46:13
difficult and seeing things in yourself
46:15
that you'd rather not this is a life in
46:17
which God is determined to make us like
46:20
Jesus oh we want to live in peace
46:24
together to give our life credibility
46:28
and to really live it before God that
46:31
God can make it a blessing for the world
46:35
and he puts us in a community and with
46:39
sisters who we would never choose and
46:44
the the interactions and the happenings
46:48
and the trials are all meant to fashion
46:54
Christ in us my mom said a long time ago
46:58
people are saying you you have escaped
47:02
you know to a peaceful life and I said
47:05
well it's not really an escape because
47:10
we have this Val of stability and so you
47:13
if you're not getting along with someone
47:15
you can't get out of a situation you
47:17
have to really work through it and she
47:19
said you mean the sisters don't get a
47:21
lot more people don't realize that it's
47:25
your life and that you bring and
47:28
everyone else brings their own
47:31
unfinished selves and that we're willing
47:35
to commit to each other to to grow and
47:39
to allow other people to grow but that's
47:42
very painful so it's a struggle the
47:44
journey but at the heart of it is this
47:48
tremendous groundedness in in christ the
47:56
best part in this life is that we are
47:59
called to prayer which the best part
48:06
being hidden with God with all these
48:09
wonderful other people who are all on
48:11
the same journey who have God as their
48:15
as a main focus of their life being
48:17
invited to know Jesus Christ and to
48:22
follow him and to become like him
48:28
the best part I think would be the
48:31
search for God but the search for God is
48:33
very mysterious because it never turns
48:36
out the way you planned
48:37
cuz God is always full of surprises the
48:45
best part is knowing that I belong to
48:48
the one for whom I looked for so long I
48:54
[Music]
48:56
think what is most beautiful to me is is
48:59
the morning the time between when we
49:03
wake up at 3:00 and in-laws which begins
49:07
at at 6:30 it's called the great silence
49:11
and it is a very very great thing it is
49:13
a very great silence and it's it's very
49:17
real that it penetrates your heart that
49:19
the longer you're here and I stay in
49:24
church for about an hour and a half
49:26
every morning just in the darkness just
49:29
silently praying I couldn't live without
49:33
that I'm not sure if I can tell you why
49:38
inwards because sometimes it's very you
49:44
know it's very beautiful and and
49:46
sometimes it just feels like I'm just
49:49
there and nothing terribly exciting is
49:53
happening but regardless of how I feel
49:57
about it on a deeper level it's feeding
50:03
me and I could never I could never walk
50:07
away from that
50:08
you
50:09
[Music]
50:10
in the mysterious hidden life of the
50:14
Trappist Dean's the reason they
50:17
continued to cherish their life in the
50:19
monastery is the reality of the divine
50:22
love they know and experience so deeply
50:27
[Music]
50:31
in the quiet when as a community they
50:36
pray and sing hymns of joy and
50:38
Thanksgiving when they serve the sister
50:44
as they live with
50:46
[Music]
50:50
break bread with
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[Music]
50:58
and work with
51:03
[Music]
51:07
from the mundane routine of the compost
51:10
pile to the garden pruning blueberries
51:18
to stimulate the new still sleeping
51:21
springtime growth to the barn
51:29
shepherding the sheep from which their
51:31
will will be used to make blankets
51:38
theirs is a life of mission and purpose
51:41
the purpose of our being here is to pray
51:47
for the needs of the world and there is
51:50
such great suffering and such great need
51:53
and pain in the world and our response
51:58
is just to embrace all of that and in
52:00
our own struggles our own daily life in
52:04
a very mysterious way we are separated
52:07
and we are closer and yet I feel that I
52:09
serve just as importantly or as just as
52:14
powerfully as I did when I worked with
52:16
the poor directly I'm here to intercede
52:19
I'm here to pray for these people in
52:22
need for for everyone I know that this
52:24
is the mission and the ministry that God
52:26
has given me there is a flight to God to
52:33
the God who loved the world so much that
52:37
He gave His only Son and I think the
52:41
more we seek that God and the more we
52:45
come to know that God
52:47
the law we desire to embrace the world
52:52
that he loves so much
52:59
when Jesus says that the one who gives
53:04
up everything will get it back a
53:05
hundredfold
53:10
he isn't just using a figure of speech
53:13
it's a very real thing and the longer
53:16
I'm here and the more I let go of the
53:19
more I realized that you really do get
53:21
it back in some way that's more
53:25
beautiful than you could ever imagine
53:26
but you have to let go first for a long
53:31
time I really I was waiting for this
53:34
certainty I think I had this time of
53:36
great uncertainty was God still asking
53:39
this of me or did he change his mind but
53:42
now it now is it's quite clear it's
53:44
quite clear to me into the community
53:46
that God has called me here I had looked
53:51
for this person for so long that when I
53:55
finally found him and found that there
53:58
was a place where I could give him
54:00
everything it was almost a foregone
54:02
conclusion I had been a seeker my whole
54:05
life that once I had found what I was
54:09
seeking
54:12
it was an all-or-nothing thing it was
54:14
this is you and and I love you and and I
54:18
want to give you my life
54:27
[Music]
54:45
Oshin
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[Music]
55:09
welcoming me
55:11
[Music]
55:33
show yourself our lover he will hear
55:40
you're feeding your I shall turn Condor
55:49
is hungry ceiling
55:52
[Music]
55:59
trend last of all virgins
56:04
god I love be faithful keepers from
56:11
[Music]
56:14
gentle strong and greed
56:18
[Music]
56:30
[Laughter]
56:35
[Music]
57:16
I had to write a letter to us to enter
57:20
and and I couldn't write that letter I
57:22
couldn't put into words why it was that
57:24
I wanted to come and the last thought
57:29
was I can't live a long-distance
57:32
relationship with you anymore
57:34
meaning with God I want to end this I I
57:39
don't want to go to Mass and then go to
57:41
work and then go to visit a friend I
57:44
want you at all times
57:47
[Music]
58:25
you

Monday, 11 March 2019

Sarva Mangala - ૐ Om Namah Shivaya ૐ- Tina Malia & Shimshai May the warm fires of Goddess shine upon your hearts - and may you know your heart's desire... ૐ Om Namah Shivaya ૐ

Sarva Mangala - ૐ Om Namah Shivaya ૐ- Tina Malia & Shimshai May the warm fires of Goddess shine upon your hearts - and may you know your heart's desire... ૐ Om Namah Shivaya ૐ



Tina Malia - Miraculously Medicinal Mantras

Tina Malia - Miraculously Medicinal Mantras



00:00
welcome to voice rising with Cara
00:02
johnstad enjoy weekly conversations with
00:05
leading luminaries pioneering
00:07
visionaries singers poets musicians and
00:10
sound healers as we explore the profound
00:13
role our voice plays on the path to
00:15
self-realization and global
00:17
enlightenment the internationally
00:19
acclaimed singer composer author healer
00:22
recording artist voice expert creator of
00:25
voice your essence and founder of the
00:27
spool of voice Cara John's dad uses her
00:30
extraordinary spiritual gifts to empower
00:33
others everything in this world vibrates
00:35
everything has a frequency a pioneer in
00:39
the field of voice work and
00:40
transformational songwriting her
00:42
breakthrough methods are helping
00:44
thousands of people
00:46
fine-tune their body mind spirit system
00:49
and unlock the energetic frequencies of
00:52
limitless creativity health and
00:54
abundance share your voice ask your
00:57
questions join in the conversation
00:59
receive life-changing positive
01:02
transformation and rise together to
01:04
create a sound world and here's your
01:07
host Cara John's dad
01:12
hello everybody welcome to voice rising
01:16
today I am delighted to have with me in
01:18
studio the prolific singer songwriter
01:21
Tina Melia a visionary musical artist
01:24
tina expresses her radiant inner
01:26
landscape through song and her sonic
01:29
creation span sacred chant world dream
01:33
pop and folk music genres tina is a
01:36
beloved pioneer in a growing community
01:38
of people around the world dedicated to
01:41
residing in harmony with the earth and
01:44
expressing it through art health
01:46
education and music so welcome Tina and
01:49
thank you so much for taking time to be
01:52
with me
01:52
today and to deepen the conversation on
01:55
voice and vibrational healing so I want
02:06
to start with a very I hope it's an easy
02:09
question before we continue to deepen
02:12
this conversation which I love so much
02:14
it's conversation on sound consciousness
02:16
and vibrational healing high frequency
02:19
wellness would you like to share with us
02:22
something from your childhood a memory
02:25
which role did music play while you were
02:28
kid growing up was it was it a natural
02:31
thing to to be music with my whole it
02:36
was it was music was my whole world
02:38
as a child my mother was a concert
02:40
pianist so I lived in and breathed music
02:45
from the time I was in the womb
02:49
literally my mom would practice the
02:53
piano seven hours a day and I was a baby
02:56
so actually I loved telling the story
02:59
because it's my first memory on planet
03:01
Earth is when I was baby
03:03
I liked to be in my car seat which of
03:06
course would would make me a perfect
03:09
candidate for a traveling musician for
03:11
my whole life so she wasn't me in my
03:13
cars the underneath the grand piano that
03:16
was how I got babysat and she was
03:18
practicing for hours and hours so I
03:20
would hear all these songs and I still
03:22
remember them in detail
03:24
no bi note these concertos that she
03:27
would practice but my first real memory
03:29
of earth is the piano starting to go out
03:33
of tune and I was getting so irritated
03:35
by it
03:37
I remember thinking is somebody gonna
03:40
come tune this thing so I so yes music
03:48
has always been my life and then my mom
03:52
started teaching me when I was pretty
03:55
much old enough to talk and old enough
03:56
to request it and it was my first
04:00
language I learned how to read music I
04:02
was learning how to read and write into
04:04
everything else so it's always just been
04:08
my whole life but when you perform you
04:11
you actually perform a lot on the guitar
04:14
right so you're fluent and also in piano
04:17
I'm sure you play harm and ya know it's
04:19
my first instrument is my first
04:22
instrument keep cutting you off you know
04:26
I learned classically which if there's
04:29
any classical musicians out there it's
04:31
it's quite a jump not for everyone but
04:34
for a lot a lot of times it mentally is
04:36
a jump to go from classical music on an
04:39
instrument to writing free flow on that
04:44
same instrument or it was for me maybe
04:46
it's I can just hear the voice of my
04:48
mother standing over me but guitar I
04:51
just always found it a lot easier to
04:54
just let this other exploratory part of
04:56
me come out so and it easier to chant to
04:59
to carry a guitar ya know I love that
05:04
because my mother was also a classical
05:06
pianist prodigy and my grandmother was
05:08
also a class Oh pianist and so I also
05:11
remember building those forts you know
05:14
we draped these big quilts over the
05:16
piano so that was kind of our hideaway
05:19
right but at the same time whenever we
05:21
would play the classical pieces you
05:24
could hear from the kitchen someone
05:25
saying no no that's the fourth finger
05:28
you need on what they knew exactly if
05:30
you weren't making your scales correctly
05:32
that you missed it that from far away so
05:37
I know
05:38
now I understand that that's very
05:40
beautiful this feeling of finding a
05:42
fresh maybe a fresh instrument to
05:46
express that very deep beautiful poetry
05:50
that you have within I was I was curious
05:53
about that so everybody on the path it
05:56
seems like everybody is longing to find
05:59
work that makes their soul sing and you
06:03
definitely have found it you are yeah
06:06
you are traveling you are recording
06:08
you're recording artist you are a
06:10
singer-songwriter what was a turning
06:12
point in your life when you you realize
06:15
that you want to dedicate your your life
06:18
to being a musician and being a
06:20
songwriter well I I kind of always knew
06:25
I would do music I remember being 11 and
06:31
declaring to myself that I I wanted to
06:34
be a singer and I just was clear about
06:37
that you know I I always have to include
06:40
my mother in this conversation because
06:42
she was just part and parcel of all of
06:44
my musical training and and everything
06:48
that led up to that she really wanted me
06:52
to be a classical pianist so I was very
06:53
much being trained to do that but I
06:55
loved to sing and my father my mother
06:59
who's passed now she was from South
07:01
Korea so all the stories you hear are
07:04
true about Korean parents so now they
07:06
are with their kids and now they might
07:08
make you practice hours and hours and
07:10
hours per day and it's very serious so
07:13
that was that side and I would like to
07:15
add it was very grateful for that
07:17
discipline and to have that level of
07:20
training but my father who is American
07:23
much more laid-back much more kind of a
07:26
hippie attitude so he was the one I went
07:28
to for a guitar and he kind of you know
07:31
helped me encouraged me to be a saint to
07:35
sing and be a singer and helped me with
07:37
the you know school play and all my
07:40
choral parts and everything like that so
07:42
I I started to develop this love for
07:47
singing and it just there's just
07:49
something about it to have you're in
07:51
Dermott inside of you and to be able to
07:53
express that instrument that way through
07:57
the feeling of that is just there's for
07:59
me there's no other feeling like that on
08:01
earth it's the most before thing besides
08:05
mantra meditation that I can do so I
08:08
hooked on to that very young and
08:10
declared that was what I wanted to do I
08:13
certainly did not set out to be on this
08:15
path of doing you know quote spiritual
08:20
music or conscious music or that that
08:22
was just part of my path as a human that
08:25
I didn't know it was going to go that
08:27
direction but that just coupled itself
08:30
along with my musical journey but I
08:32
definitely knew I wanted to do music my
08:34
whole life and from very young so how do
08:38
you do it nowadays - are you a
08:41
songwriter who writes it wakes up with
08:43
the dawn and has a certain writing
08:44
practice the morning pages or or you
08:48
know or are you one of those that just
08:50
carries a moleskin or a journal around
08:53
and maybe the audio memo and you're
08:56
grabbing the inspiration when it comes
08:58
is there is there a certain yeah is
09:01
there a certain ritual you have with
09:02
capturing well I I will say in my when I
09:11
first started out as a songwriter you
09:13
know in my teens it was just it just
09:16
poured out I just couldn't stop writing
09:19
songs and you know I'm now on my sixth
09:22
album and it definitely I'm sorry I'm
09:24
I'm just starting my seventh so they it
09:28
goes it's it comes slower now I have to
09:32
kind of and now I'm on tour and I find
09:35
that it's hard for me to focus on two
09:38
things at once so I I when I'm on tour I
09:40
really focus on the tour and so now I
09:43
have to really take the time and kind of
09:46
you know like back in the day when I had
09:48
to lock myself in a room and practice
09:50
for hours now I have to do that with the
09:53
same intention and just really stop all
09:57
distractions and I find that that that
09:59
river of the muse of inspiration is
10:03
there and it's
10:04
always there it's really just about
10:06
stopping and being quiet and and also
10:10
looking for it I have to actually sit
10:12
down with my instruments with the
10:14
intention to write with the intention to
10:17
to find new avenues you know to find new
10:21
to in new inspiration and then it comes
10:24
but I have to I have to stop and I have
10:26
to stop everything in order to do it
10:28
which is actually what I'm just about to
10:31
start doing right the second like
10:33
tomorrow like you said you're going into
10:47
your seventh album so I know the other
10:50
six albums and one of my very favorites
10:52
is your silent awakening album I found
10:55
it a very enchanting and poetic and and
11:02
this is my curiosity as another as a
11:04
fellow singer songwriter and a singer
11:06
that album was full of a lot of poetry
11:08
and a lot of original material that was
11:11
really coming directly from the heart
11:15
you could you know you could say that
11:16
although all the words and now the last
11:20
couple of albums you've you've made
11:23
space in your life also to honor the
11:25
Sanskrit and or the mantras and yeah I
11:30
guess your your other albums also had
11:32
chants in other languages I was just
11:35
wondering is such a talented poet what
11:37
your reasoning was behind that or if you
11:40
find yourself being drawn back to
11:42
expressing your own truth in your own
11:46
words I guess I really so much enjoyed
11:48
that album and I loved I loved all the
11:51
old shanties but I also loved really
11:54
what you what you wrote directly from
11:57
your heart are you planning to do that
12:00
on your seventh album I am this next
12:02
album this next album will be will be
12:05
another album in English I know I live
12:08
kind of in these in these dual world so
12:11
to speak or in several I mean music the
12:15
creation of music the language of music
12:18
the music itself is really what moves me
12:21
and so the words and the language in a
12:26
way they all touch me similarly you know
12:29
the the the Sanskrit and not only the
12:34
Sanskrit occur mouki Hebrew Spanish all
12:37
these different languages they all they
12:40
just have their different flavors and
12:42
they touched me very deeply in different
12:44
ways I have found the mantra chanting to
12:48
be an incredibly effective tool and I
12:54
know a lot of people are very deeply in
12:56
that world and use music in that way and
12:58
I also do so I love to offer that space
13:01
and then I also know I have this whole
13:03
other litany of fans that don't connect
13:05
it all with mantra and they really
13:08
connect you know I have have people just
13:11
straight I'll say that to me when are
13:12
you gonna stop with this mantra thing
13:14
you don't like will never but I
13:17
understand what you're saying like I'm
13:19
definitely also have a deep love for for
13:23
the poetry I will say that that that is
13:25
I remember Sarah McLaughlin saying that
13:27
once in a in an interview and it shocked
13:29
me she said that writing lyrics for her
13:31
was like trying to scoop water out of a
13:33
stone
13:34
and I couldn't believe she said that
13:36
because I always considered her poetry
13:38
to be so prolific and you just assumed
13:41
that it was very easy for her but
13:44
similarly for me that is a process that
13:49
is those songs silent awakening I wrote
13:52
those over many years you know and the
13:55
other thing about that album for me too
13:56
and and this is something I don't admit
14:00
very often so you know I figured that
14:03
was a great time it's there are so many
14:11
things I said on the album like heal
14:13
this land that album for instance but I
14:15
feel like how could I ever say that
14:17
again
14:18
you know like I said really what I
14:20
wanted to say as a human on planet Earth
14:22
in that album so it's hard to know how
14:27
to what you just have to completely let
14:31
that go and take
14:32
come from a completely different angle
14:34
to be able to find a new inspiration
14:38
when you feel like you already said what
14:41
you wanted to say I don't know if that
14:42
makes sense there's a lot of truth in
14:48
that album I think that that is why it's
14:51
such a timeless classic the way it was
14:54
produced to sound of course your voice
14:57
you know the instrumentation it was it
15:01
was a jam it is a gem and it's an album
15:04
that we can play for many many many many
15:07
many years right so the the thing also
15:10
that is always a little bit frightening
15:12
for all of us that are writing songs as
15:15
we hear this beautiful song heal this
15:17
land and then we feel that message and
15:20
that call so clearly and then we stand
15:24
10 years later and the lands are still
15:26
not being attended to or healed and I
15:29
think there's also a great sadness and
15:31
all of us when we realize you know that
15:33
we continue to meditate we continue to
15:37
chant we continue to sing we continue to
15:39
work for the planet and yet sometimes
15:42
it's you know it's just a dedication
15:45
that I guess we just have to continue
15:47
continue and I do feel the tides are
15:50
changing but I can understand that it's
15:52
a you really and that's rare I think
15:56
captured many yeah the essence of song
16:02
in that album and a nice merge between
16:05
what we know is chant heal this land I
16:08
think you know it's it's one longer
16:11
verse that keeps on just repeating so it
16:13
was a nice form I thought of how we
16:16
loved chant and at the same time with
16:19
the poetry of a songwriter anyway yes so
16:26
you you're latest albums you are singing
16:29
beautiful mantras and beautiful chants
16:31
and they're there to heal us and guide
16:32
us back to wholeness
16:33
have you found personal healing through
16:37
your through your life and of recording
16:41
mantras living mantra singing much with
16:43
your chanting practice is also
16:46
stealing journey absolutely I started I
16:52
started chanting mantra with a man who
16:56
you may know I mean if you call what we
16:58
do his name is Jay Hall and he was one
17:02
of the first Westerners that went to
17:04
India along with Christian auth and Nam
17:07
das and he met a man named neem karoli
17:10
baba and he same to me that was kind of
17:14
the introduction for a lot of people and
17:17
they brought that over to the West so
17:19
he's you know a huge influence on
17:24
bringing this practice over to to us
17:27
Westerners and I sang in his band when I
17:30
was 18 I met him and make a very long
17:35
story short I have was singing in his
17:37
band learning these mantras and they
17:39
were very beautiful but I was going
17:42
through a very deep personal crisis
17:44
truly going through the dark night of my
17:47
soul and felt very lost here on earth so
17:50
depressed depressed really isn't even
17:53
the word for it I like to say my my
17:55
cells felt like they were on fire like
17:58
every cell felt like it was burning and
18:01
in so much suffering and to the point
18:05
where I was starting to plan how to end
18:09
my life because I just couldn't take it
18:11
anymore I was I was 24 by the way and
18:14
for no reason I just I couldn't find
18:17
meaning on earth I knew it was here and
18:20
I already had you know put out these
18:23
great albums had all these beautiful
18:25
friends everything provided for me so it
18:28
wasn't that there was any lack external
18:31
in some ways that almost made it worse
18:33
because I really had so much and yet I
18:36
was just I couldn't find my purple
18:40
wasn't even that I couldn't find my
18:41
purpose because I even then I I had
18:43
purpose I always knew what I wanted to
18:45
do it was this deep deep aching
18:49
loneliness that I couldn't shake and
18:52
that nothing was helping me at all and
18:56
so it just wouldn't go away it wouldn't
19:00
go away months and months all day all
19:02
night and finally Jai my friend came to
19:07
me and you know he saw me in this state
19:10
of despair for quite a while and he
19:14
asked me you know he said hey Tina have
19:16
you ever tried doing japa mantra I said
19:20
no I don't know what that is and he said
19:22
it's really easy and he had a mala I'm
19:24
sure all of you have seen you know these
19:26
necklaces these mullahs and they're
19:29
really a tool they're beautiful but
19:30
they're really tools and you said it's
19:33
really easy you put it in between your
19:34
hands
19:35
and every time you you pass a bead you
19:39
chant this mantra and I chant the mantra
19:41
ROM that was the that was what was given
19:44
to me by my teacher and it's just love
19:47
it just means God and love and you're
19:49
just calling out to the divine and he
19:52
said you should maybe try it might help
19:54
you and so I started this practice with
19:57
nothing else with nothing to lose and
19:59
nothing else to do because all of my
20:02
books everything I had done in the past
20:04
even singing music nothing was working
20:07
for me anymore and I was just in this
20:09
constant state of despair so I started
20:12
doing this this mantra repetition and
20:17
after you know many hours that day and
20:22
then the next day and then weeks and
20:24
then months and it was through this
20:26
practice that it I was completely healed
20:30
completely lifted out of this deep state
20:35
of despair so I say that mantra saved my
20:40
life in it and it's true it is something
20:43
that actually saved my life
20:44
and it didn't just pull me out of this
20:46
despair it filled me with the feeling
20:49
that I was so desperately looking all
20:52
over planet Earth for you know and it's
20:55
all the teach spiritual teachings that
20:58
all of us read from every teacher from
21:01
all over the world
21:02
what are they always say it's found
21:04
within well what if you don't know how
21:06
to find it with it and what if you don't
21:08
know what that tool is so for me that's
21:10
what mantra is it's actually a tool it's
21:13
it's like
21:13
giving you a shovel so that you can go
21:16
internally and you can actually dig and
21:19
you can actually dig until you find that
21:21
pot of gold so if that's what that is
21:23
it's this beautiful beautiful sacred
21:25
tool to help you dig and find that so
21:28
that you can actually reach that well
21:30
and I did you know we called that
21:34
beautiful thought creating sound I'm
21:36
somebody that magic of the magic of
21:40
mantra practice we're here today with
21:42
Tina Malia be back in a few moments
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welcome back to voice rising I have with
25:08
me inserted today Tina Malia and we are
25:11
talking about mantra sound consciousness
25:13
and the power of voice to transform our
25:16
lives so Tina your story before the
25:20
break it deeply touched me that I had to
25:23
think of the word sound mind sound body
25:26
making a sound decision how sound
25:29
literally can start to get every single
25:33
cell in our heart and our mind you know
25:36
vibrating and in harmony so that's if I
25:40
thought it was very precious how you
25:41
spoke about being in a dark night of the
25:44
soul and having um not only singing but
25:47
the practice of japa mantra helped to
25:51
heal you make you whole oh yes I still
25:58
do it every day how you do it it's
26:00
become a tried and true friend more than
26:04
anything else and it just is a way it's
26:07
the only way actually that really brings
26:11
me to a place of centeredness of calm a
26:13
peace and like I was saying before the
26:15
break even more than all of those it's
26:18
great to feel calm it's great to feel at
26:20
peace but it's even better to feel
26:23
completely filled to the brim with the
26:26
deepest sensation of love that you've
26:28
looked for your whole life on earth and
26:31
that's what this practice has brought me
26:33
so what more can you ask for than that
26:37
so imma hata it's the title of your
26:40
newest album and it's also the fourth
26:43
chakra of the seven main chakras right
26:45
located directly in the heart a Sanskrit
26:48
word I found it interesting that Anahata
26:50
means also unstruck unbeaten unhurt it
26:54
reminded me of a song from long ago
26:57
unbreak on break my heart that place
27:00
where the heart is innocent and and full
27:04
of abundant love why did you choose to
27:07
name the album Anahata what does it mean
27:11
- exactly exactly I think you just said
27:15
it even
27:16
and I would have said it exactly that
27:22
it's that it's that sense of purity of
27:25
the heart just just that just a sense of
27:30
purity and like you said unstruck before
27:35
before it's it's touched and tarnished
27:38
just how we are in our true nature
27:41
beautiful I'd like to play a piece off
27:44
of the anahata album called moola mantra
27:46
would you like to share a few words
27:48
before we go into that title this is
27:52
really this is a really beautiful mantra
27:54
and it's it's really for calming it's a
27:58
real calming and bringing a sense of
28:01
peace and as all of these mantras the
28:05
the point of all of them as you will
28:07
start to study a bit about them is just
28:12
kind of this return to an end of
28:15
suffering that's kind of just a theme
28:16
that goes through or that runs through
28:18
all of them is different angles to come
28:21
to the end of suffering so that's the
28:25
point of this one is not the point
28:27
but that's one of one of the the
28:28
practices of it moola mantra by Tina
28:32
Maria
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leontina
32:07
is with us here in studio today so Tina
32:10
you're speaking a lot are you sharing
32:12
with us very much exactly what I wanted
32:15
to ask you actually this you know the
32:17
world can be harsh at times we have some
32:19
some challenges that we need to face as
32:22
part of just being on the earth being
32:24
human and it's very natural for us to
32:27
close down in order to survive and yet
32:31
the album it talks really about living
32:34
with that wide open heart and so I was
32:38
just curious do you have a daily ritual
32:42
maybe even you know I know you know
32:45
you're gonna have the daily ritual of
32:46
course of mantra that helps you stay
32:50
with an open heart in that beautiful
32:53
presence that you have even though yeah
32:57
even though the fires are burning even
32:59
though we're facing a lot of challenges
33:02
as a humanity also and personally well
33:08
I'd hate to be a broken record you know
33:14
as I mentioned in the beginning of this
33:16
of this interview so are you tall is the
33:19
person who gave me this this mantra and
33:21
my daily practice and his teacher was
33:24
neem Karoli Baba so this was this was a
33:28
neem karoli baba pretty much his only
33:30
teaching you know he would just say
33:32
chant Rahm he didn't have books he
33:35
didn't have discourses and he would say
33:38
that all of your questions will be
33:39
answered there and you know like I said
33:43
having had this practice now for for
33:45
many years I can say that the truth at
33:48
that is very true for me as well that
33:51
there's it's it actually stops all the
33:54
questions and it kind of stops all the
33:56
searching for everything else because
33:58
they say that mantra is another form of
34:01
silence so it's bringing this this
34:05
feeling of sila
34:06
to everything so yes you're absolutely
34:08
right if the world is crazy right now
34:12
and I feel like what it does is it gives
34:16
this know I use this example of a well a
34:19
lot because that's what it feels like so
34:22
it's you know if you have if your being
34:29
is like this lake you know it's a link
34:31
and you have this internal source of
34:35
this beautiful pure water now everything
34:39
else that is I don't know where I'm
34:41
going with this metaphor I should've
34:43
thought before I do no pun intended you
34:50
know if if if you have this big empty
34:55
vessel and it's not filled at all with
34:58
any water let's just say since we're
35:00
using the water metaphor then whatever
35:02
comes along you know you can dump dirty
35:05
water into it or whatever it is and and
35:08
that's what its gonna hold but if you
35:10
have this this internal source of this
35:14
pure water then if it's filled to the
35:16
brim that's going to be filled with and
35:18
you can walk around the world with that
35:21
fullness I guess is what I'm trying to
35:23
say and it's a its own form of
35:25
protection so it's this sense now I'm
35:29
not perfect I would just like to say
35:31
that this is all you know I'm also very
35:33
human and go through all of my human
35:36
things but I do feel like it's this it's
35:38
a form of protection and it's a
35:40
protection of love I don't know how
35:42
better to explain it than that
35:43
for me personally and it is walking with
35:48
this knowledge that all these things are
35:50
happening and of course doing our best
35:53
to to to help to change to fight with
35:57
necessary but with this sense of
36:01
fullness in the sense of peace and I
36:03
think that's an important I think that's
36:06
really important you know especially for
36:08
those of us that do care about the
36:10
planet and the animals and the trees and
36:12
the water is in the air that we have an
36:16
ability to refill ourselves constant
36:19
because if if we can't do that then you
36:23
know we're screwed the thing is that our
36:34
bodies are 80% or 90% water and we are
36:38
breathing in the air right so we are we
36:41
also have that Stardust in our bodies so
36:44
I think I've you know I've spoken about
36:46
that often too is that we do have
36:48
choices that we get to make and we do
36:51
absorb frequency into that water so that
36:54
idea of the fresh water well the
36:57
wellspring which is literally where we
37:00
get the word wellness right from from
37:02
this well and this Wellspring that we do
37:05
have the choice to to create that high
37:08
vibrational field to feed ourselves not
37:12
only the news and the newspapers and the
37:15
worries and the pain which are apparent
37:18
and I'm not saying at all - you know
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rise above it but to be part of it to be
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in it but I also believe very much that
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sound is a protective force if we we use
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it wisely it's also force that can hurt
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us if we don't use it wisely right but
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it is a powerful medicine very very
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powerful medicine are there any mantras
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or you know people are starting out we
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know that many people you know use oh
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is attributed to saying that to sing is
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to pray twice do you feel that singing
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is to pray yeah it sounds like the
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intent or that is a space of singing
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that we are experiencing while we're
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listening to your music and that we all
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have within ourselves singing absolutely
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no I'm I'm completely on board with I
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you know and it's a choice to of course
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you can sing anything you want to and if
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you what I have found and that's why
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I've dedicated my life this direction is
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when you choose to use your voice to
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sing prayers in whatever language you
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choose to or even if it's humming if it
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really has that prayerful quality to it
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what do we mean by prayerful everything
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from you know gratitude a sense of
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gratitude a sense of healing hope all of
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these all these feelings that when
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there's that intention behind it
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sometimes the sound itself creates that
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you don't even have to do it with your
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mind the sound sound itself can be so
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beautiful that it actually stops the
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and brings those feelings and qualities
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to you but I do find that when there's
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that intention and again that's why I
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love chanting mantra and I love doing
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sacred music and conscious music it it
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like you were talking about earlier it
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does create this vibrational field we
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are made of water it does literally tune
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the water in our bodies to those
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frequencies it's a real scientific fact
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for this album tell me a little bit
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about hey MA Durga before we go into
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this track this is just in celebration
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of the great mother the great mother of
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compassion of fierce compassion mmm
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serious compassion I love it here's Hema
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durga off of the anahata album
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Korona cigar imam Kali Kapali
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Kali ma
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[Music]
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jagged or Dyneema Jack I don't meet JJ
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me
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Jack I don't honey MA
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JJ JJ JJ
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JJ
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[Applause]
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Hey
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kairi kairi on a cigar
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golly
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[Music]
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calling me ma
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[Music]
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Jenna don't hurry NEMA jagged OHA Jayma
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[Music]
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juggled Otellini ma juggled only change
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any mom juggle don't have any more
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juggle all may change anymore
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ja ja da AGG
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that was Hema durga off of the anahata
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album Bettina Maliha who's lucky as
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she's with us in studio T now to share
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with us share with us your secrets what
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are some of your holistic practices and
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mindsets that keep you so vibrantly
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present I'll share with you all of my
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secrets cara my first and foremost have
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already shared so my second secret I
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think the most important thing is diet
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I find that my my body my vessel is very
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very sensitive to everything I put into
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it and it took me a long time to figure
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that out and we really are not taught
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that in the West how what we eat not
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only affects our physical health but
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really affects our mental health almost
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first and foremost so I'm very careful
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with that I mean I'm not like what's the
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word I'm looking for
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thank you I'm not a fanatic but I'm but
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I'm very aware of what I have what I put
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into my body everything from you know I
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mean I'm vegetarian but I don't like
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again I'm not of an I'm not a fanatic
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but I have found also you know through
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my own personal reasons that I want to
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do that but also that it's any foods
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that are very heavy really create a
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heavy mindset for me as well create a
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heaviness in my body everything you know
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caffeine
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I'm just very conscious of what I do so
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that I keep I like to stay in a state of
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no purity is not necessarily the word
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I'm looking for but but in a state of
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well-being like you were saying before
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so that's a very important one for me is
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is health I love cooking I love food I
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love medicinal foods so that's kind of
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my my secret life a lot of people kind
48:30
of joke with me that they know me as a
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cook actually
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like the world thinks you're a singer
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but actually you're a cook so I love
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doing art I'm very very into art so
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anything that has to do with with art
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and I love the earth so I I do
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woodworking I have all these kind of
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separate art projects and they are
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really what keep me healthy I have to
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see the world as art and if I can
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approach any problem as art then I can
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solve it having a really great time so
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that's kind of how I approach everything
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in life so what is your what is your
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Sedona or your practice look like when
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you get really busy when you're on tour
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when you you yeah when you're when you
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get so busy what is what do you make
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sure that you get done so then you can
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stay in balance with all your things
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well you know it's that record it's that
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broken record again for me because that
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you know after so many years of Rob Rob
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meditation you know like I was saying
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earlier in that in that story it for the
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first few weeks it didn't have a lot of
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effect on me and then after months and
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after years now it's something that if I
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get a little frazzled and I feel myself
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get frazzled all I have to do is just
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you know put myself in timeout close my
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eyes and touch into that well to that
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very now well-trodden well of mine that
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well trodden path of that of that
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practice and within moments I'm really
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right there again I I wait I do my
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practice when I'm really busy okay we're
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talking and I'm really busy running
50:29
around the world until I feel that well
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refilling again and then once I feel
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filled I'm like okay back to work and I
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can kind of go back to what I'm doing
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but that is what keeps me together in
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every part of my life
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yeah I think that many people don't
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realize that music really it it anchors
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itself everywhere in our body and in our
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memory so the more you practice it can
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be that it takes only 30 seconds or 10
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minutes to just tap it in you don't need
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that long long practice right I think
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not to say that we don't enjoy long
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practicing but many people are afraid I
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think to start a practice because I
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think I don't have the time but actually
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every moment that you spend in that
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practice of sound and Java mantra is
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enchanting and and music or even
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creativity is nurturing you and staying
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in your memory and your body forever
51:26
forever and ever it's pretty phenomenal
51:30
do you know good internet address that
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that your listeners can go to find more
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about you out and find out more about
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your concerts and retreats and buy some
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music and connect with you just Tina
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Melia comm ti na ma Li a.com okay now
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think about this how can we use the
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power of voice to heal humanity you know
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I guess I'm gonna love my answer into
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what you were just saying because I
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wanted to say something about that about
52:16
the time I started giving workshops I
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never meant to give workshops I always
52:24
only meant to be a singer
52:25
they're performers but but through this
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last few years people have asked me to
52:30
start giving workshops on on all these
52:32
things that I talk about because I love
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them so much something I love and I
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really believe in so one of the things I
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start people with is just to put a timer
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on for 10 minutes that's it 10 minute
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practice per day everyone has ten
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minutes you know so anyone who says
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they're too busy just put a timer on
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your phone and pick something easy you
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know pick something you resonate with
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and whether it's and you're using your
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voice
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internally because the practice I do is
53:06
actually silent but I'm still I still
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hear the word internally so it I think
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it's still effective as as a sound
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vibration so internally or you can do it
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externally or like you said you know
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doing music whether it's chanting or
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some sort of practice like that that
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really intentionally focuses the mind
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for that that that time frame and I find
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that all solutions to our problems can
53:40
come within those few moments because
53:42
actually within that within those
53:44
moments we realize that a lot of things
53:46
that we think our problems are not
53:47
actually problems they're just the mind
53:50
being allowed to run loose and mine is
53:54
not always our friend likes to tell us
53:57
all kinds of things that are not true
53:59
and things that are important that
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aren't really important and so giving
54:05
yourself that time and that practice it
54:08
it changes you it really does it changes
54:12
how we see things it changes how you see
54:15
yourself it changes how you see the
54:17
world it brings a sense of peace and
54:20
calm to all situations and you learn how
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and again I'm not perfect I would just
54:26
like to point out just so we're clear
54:29
that it at least gives you that tool so
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that when the very intense challenges of
54:37
life come up you can remember this place
54:40
because you've given yourself that time
54:41
ten minutes a day to go there you're
54:43
like oh I remember this okay I have a
54:45
choice either to act violently or act or
54:51
stay in this pit of sadness forever
54:53
or I can return to this place that I
54:58
remember that I've been practicing every
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single day because after doing it again
55:02
like we're saying ten minutes a day even
55:04
what happens is you start to become
55:07
familiar with that place so it's like a
55:09
room in your house and you that you
55:12
forgot you had you can go into that room
55:14
you can then remember that you have that
55:16
room so you have the choice which room
55:19
am I going to go into oh actually today
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I'm gonna choose that one and I feel
55:26
that that is the start to a greater
55:29
healing of the planet in a sense because
55:32
it's all internal I mean how can we heal
55:35
anything external without healing it
55:37
internally it's impossible I mean maybe
55:40
it's not impossible but certainly it's
55:43
going to take all of us returning to
55:48
that place remembering love remembering
55:51
compassion remembering empathy and it's
55:53
so easy to point the finger at other
55:55
people it's gonna take all of us we have
55:59
the choice we have the choice let's do
56:03
it
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or as of a dear friend of mine said
56:05
let's did it is so much with me for
56:09
being with me today here at voice rising
56:11
the wonderful prolific open-hearted
56:17
singer-songwriter Tina Malia I hope that
56:19
you will come back and grace the show
56:22
again with your presence thank you so
56:25
much Kara thank you everyone
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you
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