Tina Malia - Miraculously Medicinal Mantras

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hello everybody welcome to voice rising

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today I am delighted to have with me in

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studio the prolific singer songwriter

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Tina Melia a visionary musical artist

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tina expresses her radiant inner

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landscape through song and her sonic

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creation span sacred chant world dream

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pop and folk music genres tina is a

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beloved pioneer in a growing community

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of people around the world dedicated to

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residing in harmony with the earth and

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expressing it through art health

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education and music so welcome Tina and

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thank you so much for taking time to be

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with me

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today and to deepen the conversation on

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voice and vibrational healing so I want

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to start with a very I hope it's an easy

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question before we continue to deepen

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this conversation which I love so much

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it's conversation on sound consciousness

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and vibrational healing high frequency

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wellness would you like to share with us

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something from your childhood a memory

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which role did music play while you were

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kid growing up was it was it a natural

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thing to to be music with my whole it

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was it was music was my whole world

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as a child my mother was a concert

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pianist so I lived in and breathed music

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from the time I was in the womb

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literally my mom would practice the

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piano seven hours a day and I was a baby

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so actually I loved telling the story

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because it's my first memory on planet

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Earth is when I was baby

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I liked to be in my car seat which of

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course would would make me a perfect

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candidate for a traveling musician for

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my whole life so she wasn't me in my

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cars the underneath the grand piano that

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was how I got babysat and she was

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practicing for hours and hours so I

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would hear all these songs and I still

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remember them in detail

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no bi note these concertos that she

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would practice but my first real memory

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of earth is the piano starting to go out

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of tune and I was getting so irritated

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by it

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I remember thinking is somebody gonna

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come tune this thing so I so yes music

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has always been my life and then my mom

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started teaching me when I was pretty

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much old enough to talk and old enough

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to request it and it was my first

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language I learned how to read music I

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was learning how to read and write into

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everything else so it's always just been

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my whole life but when you perform you

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you actually perform a lot on the guitar

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right so you're fluent and also in piano

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I'm sure you play harm and ya know it's

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my first instrument is my first

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instrument keep cutting you off you know

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I learned classically which if there's

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any classical musicians out there it's

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it's quite a jump not for everyone but

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for a lot a lot of times it mentally is

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a jump to go from classical music on an

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instrument to writing free flow on that

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same instrument or it was for me maybe

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it's I can just hear the voice of my

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mother standing over me but guitar I

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just always found it a lot easier to

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just let this other exploratory part of

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me come out so and it easier to chant to

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to carry a guitar ya know I love that

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because my mother was also a classical

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pianist prodigy and my grandmother was

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also a class Oh pianist and so I also

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remember building those forts you know

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we draped these big quilts over the

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piano so that was kind of our hideaway

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right but at the same time whenever we

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would play the classical pieces you

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could hear from the kitchen someone

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saying no no that's the fourth finger

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you need on what they knew exactly if

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you weren't making your scales correctly

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that you missed it that from far away so

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I know

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now I understand that that's very

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beautiful this feeling of finding a

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fresh maybe a fresh instrument to

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express that very deep beautiful poetry

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that you have within I was I was curious

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about that so everybody on the path it

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seems like everybody is longing to find

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work that makes their soul sing and you

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definitely have found it you are yeah

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you are traveling you are recording

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you're recording artist you are a

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singer-songwriter what was a turning

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point in your life when you you realize

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that you want to dedicate your your life

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to being a musician and being a

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songwriter well I I kind of always knew

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I would do music I remember being 11 and

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declaring to myself that I I wanted to

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be a singer and I just was clear about

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that you know I I always have to include

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my mother in this conversation because

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she was just part and parcel of all of

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my musical training and and everything

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that led up to that she really wanted me

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to be a classical pianist so I was very

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much being trained to do that but I

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loved to sing and my father my mother

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who's passed now she was from South

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Korea so all the stories you hear are

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true about Korean parents so now they

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are with their kids and now they might

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make you practice hours and hours and

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hours per day and it's very serious so

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that was that side and I would like to

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add it was very grateful for that

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discipline and to have that level of

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training but my father who is American

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much more laid-back much more kind of a

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hippie attitude so he was the one I went

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to for a guitar and he kind of you know

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helped me encouraged me to be a saint to

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sing and be a singer and helped me with

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the you know school play and all my

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choral parts and everything like that so

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I I started to develop this love for

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singing and it just there's just

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something about it to have you're in

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Dermott inside of you and to be able to

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express that instrument that way through

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the feeling of that is just there's for

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me there's no other feeling like that on

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earth it's the most before thing besides

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mantra meditation that I can do so I

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hooked on to that very young and

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declared that was what I wanted to do I

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certainly did not set out to be on this

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path of doing you know quote spiritual

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music or conscious music or that that

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was just part of my path as a human that

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I didn't know it was going to go that

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direction but that just coupled itself

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along with my musical journey but I

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definitely knew I wanted to do music my

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whole life and from very young so how do

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you do it nowadays - are you a

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songwriter who writes it wakes up with

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the dawn and has a certain writing

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practice the morning pages or or you

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know or are you one of those that just

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carries a moleskin or a journal around

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and maybe the audio memo and you're

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grabbing the inspiration when it comes

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is there is there a certain yeah is

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there a certain ritual you have with

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capturing well I I will say in my when I

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first started out as a songwriter you

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know in my teens it was just it just

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poured out I just couldn't stop writing

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songs and you know I'm now on my sixth

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album and it definitely I'm sorry I'm

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I'm just starting my seventh so they it

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goes it's it comes slower now I have to

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kind of and now I'm on tour and I find

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that it's hard for me to focus on two

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things at once so I I when I'm on tour I

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really focus on the tour and so now I

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have to really take the time and kind of

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you know like back in the day when I had

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to lock myself in a room and practice

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for hours now I have to do that with the

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same intention and just really stop all

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distractions and I find that that that

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river of the muse of inspiration is

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there and it's

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always there it's really just about

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stopping and being quiet and and also

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looking for it I have to actually sit

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down with my instruments with the

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intention to write with the intention to

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to find new avenues you know to find new

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to in new inspiration and then it comes

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but I have to I have to stop and I have

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to stop everything in order to do it

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which is actually what I'm just about to

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start doing right the second like

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tomorrow like you said you're going into

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your seventh album so I know the other

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six albums and one of my very favorites

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is your silent awakening album I found

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it a very enchanting and poetic and and

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this is my curiosity as another as a

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fellow singer songwriter and a singer

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that album was full of a lot of poetry

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and a lot of original material that was

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really coming directly from the heart

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you could you know you could say that

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although all the words and now the last

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couple of albums you've you've made

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space in your life also to honor the

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Sanskrit and or the mantras and yeah I

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guess your your other albums also had

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chants in other languages I was just

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wondering is such a talented poet what

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your reasoning was behind that or if you

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find yourself being drawn back to

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expressing your own truth in your own

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words I guess I really so much enjoyed

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that album and I loved I loved all the

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old shanties but I also loved really

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what you what you wrote directly from

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your heart are you planning to do that

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on your seventh album I am this next

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album this next album will be will be

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another album in English I know I live

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kind of in these in these dual world so

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to speak or in several I mean music the

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creation of music the language of music

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the music itself is really what moves me

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and so the words and the language in a

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way they all touch me similarly you know

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the the the Sanskrit and not only the

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Sanskrit occur mouki Hebrew Spanish all

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these different languages they all they

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just have their different flavors and

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they touched me very deeply in different

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ways I have found the mantra chanting to

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be an incredibly effective tool and I

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know a lot of people are very deeply in

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that world and use music in that way and

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I also do so I love to offer that space

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and then I also know I have this whole

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other litany of fans that don't connect

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it all with mantra and they really

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connect you know I have have people just

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straight I'll say that to me when are

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you gonna stop with this mantra thing

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you don't like will never but I

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understand what you're saying like I'm

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definitely also have a deep love for for

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the poetry I will say that that that is

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I remember Sarah McLaughlin saying that

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once in a in an interview and it shocked

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me she said that writing lyrics for her

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was like trying to scoop water out of a

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stone

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and I couldn't believe she said that

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because I always considered her poetry

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to be so prolific and you just assumed

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that it was very easy for her but

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similarly for me that is a process that

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is those songs silent awakening I wrote

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those over many years you know and the

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other thing about that album for me too

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and and this is something I don't admit

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very often so you know I figured that

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was a great time it's there are so many

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things I said on the album like heal

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this land that album for instance but I

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feel like how could I ever say that

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again

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you know like I said really what I

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wanted to say as a human on planet Earth

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in that album so it's hard to know how

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to what you just have to completely let

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that go and take

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come from a completely different angle

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to be able to find a new inspiration

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when you feel like you already said what

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you wanted to say I don't know if that

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makes sense there's a lot of truth in

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that album I think that that is why it's

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such a timeless classic the way it was

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produced to sound of course your voice

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you know the instrumentation it was it

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was a jam it is a gem and it's an album

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that we can play for many many many many

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many years right so the the thing also

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that is always a little bit frightening

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for all of us that are writing songs as

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we hear this beautiful song heal this

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land and then we feel that message and

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that call so clearly and then we stand

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10 years later and the lands are still

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not being attended to or healed and I

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think there's also a great sadness and

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all of us when we realize you know that

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we continue to meditate we continue to

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chant we continue to sing we continue to

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work for the planet and yet sometimes

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it's you know it's just a dedication

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that I guess we just have to continue

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continue and I do feel the tides are

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changing but I can understand that it's

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a you really and that's rare I think

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captured many yeah the essence of song

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in that album and a nice merge between

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what we know is chant heal this land I

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think you know it's it's one longer

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verse that keeps on just repeating so it

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was a nice form I thought of how we

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loved chant and at the same time with

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the poetry of a songwriter anyway yes so

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you you're latest albums you are singing

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beautiful mantras and beautiful chants

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and they're there to heal us and guide

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us back to wholeness

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have you found personal healing through

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your through your life and of recording

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mantras living mantra singing much with

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your chanting practice is also

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stealing journey absolutely I started I

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started chanting mantra with a man who

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you may know I mean if you call what we

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do his name is Jay Hall and he was one

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of the first Westerners that went to

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India along with Christian auth and Nam

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das and he met a man named neem karoli

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baba and he same to me that was kind of

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the introduction for a lot of people and

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they brought that over to the West so

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he's you know a huge influence on

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bringing this practice over to to us

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Westerners and I sang in his band when I

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was 18 I met him and make a very long

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story short I have was singing in his

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band learning these mantras and they

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were very beautiful but I was going

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through a very deep personal crisis

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truly going through the dark night of my

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soul and felt very lost here on earth so

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depressed depressed really isn't even

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the word for it I like to say my my

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cells felt like they were on fire like

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every cell felt like it was burning and

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in so much suffering and to the point

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where I was starting to plan how to end

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my life because I just couldn't take it

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anymore I was I was 24 by the way and

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for no reason I just I couldn't find

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meaning on earth I knew it was here and

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I already had you know put out these

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great albums had all these beautiful

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friends everything provided for me so it

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wasn't that there was any lack external

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in some ways that almost made it worse

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because I really had so much and yet I

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was just I couldn't find my purple

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wasn't even that I couldn't find my

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purpose because I even then I I had

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purpose I always knew what I wanted to

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do it was this deep deep aching

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loneliness that I couldn't shake and

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that nothing was helping me at all and

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so it just wouldn't go away it wouldn't

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go away months and months all day all

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night and finally Jai my friend came to

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me and you know he saw me in this state

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of despair for quite a while and he

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asked me you know he said hey Tina have

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you ever tried doing japa mantra I said

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no I don't know what that is and he said

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it's really easy and he had a mala I'm

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sure all of you have seen you know these

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necklaces these mullahs and they're

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really a tool they're beautiful but

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they're really tools and you said it's

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really easy you put it in between your

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hands

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and every time you you pass a bead you

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chant this mantra and I chant the mantra

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ROM that was the that was what was given

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to me by my teacher and it's just love

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it just means God and love and you're

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just calling out to the divine and he

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said you should maybe try it might help

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you and so I started this practice with

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nothing else with nothing to lose and

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nothing else to do because all of my

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books everything I had done in the past

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even singing music nothing was working

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for me anymore and I was just in this

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constant state of despair so I started

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doing this this mantra repetition and

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after you know many hours that day and

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then the next day and then weeks and

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then months and it was through this

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practice that it I was completely healed

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completely lifted out of this deep state

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of despair so I say that mantra saved my

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life in it and it's true it is something

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that actually saved my life

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and it didn't just pull me out of this

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despair it filled me with the feeling

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that I was so desperately looking all

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over planet Earth for you know and it's

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all the teach spiritual teachings that

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all of us read from every teacher from

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all over the world

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what are they always say it's found

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within well what if you don't know how

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to find it with it and what if you don't

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know what that tool is so for me that's

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what mantra is it's actually a tool it's

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it's like

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giving you a shovel so that you can go

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internally and you can actually dig and

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you can actually dig until you find that

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pot of gold so if that's what that is

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it's this beautiful beautiful sacred

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tool to help you dig and find that so

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that you can actually reach that well

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and I did you know we called that

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beautiful thought creating sound I'm

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somebody that magic of the magic of

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mantra practice we're here today with

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Tina Malia be back in a few moments

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welcome back to voice rising I have with

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me inserted today Tina Malia and we are

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talking about mantra sound consciousness

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and the power of voice to transform our

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lives so Tina your story before the

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break it deeply touched me that I had to

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think of the word sound mind sound body

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making a sound decision how sound

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literally can start to get every single

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cell in our heart and our mind you know

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vibrating and in harmony so that's if I

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thought it was very precious how you

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spoke about being in a dark night of the

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soul and having um not only singing but

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the practice of japa mantra helped to

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heal you make you whole oh yes I still

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do it every day how you do it it's

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become a tried and true friend more than

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anything else and it just is a way it's

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the only way actually that really brings

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me to a place of centeredness of calm a

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peace and like I was saying before the

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break even more than all of those it's

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great to feel calm it's great to feel at

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peace but it's even better to feel

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completely filled to the brim with the

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deepest sensation of love that you've

26:28

looked for your whole life on earth and

26:31

that's what this practice has brought me

26:33

so what more can you ask for than that

26:37

so imma hata it's the title of your

26:40

newest album and it's also the fourth

26:43

chakra of the seven main chakras right

26:45

located directly in the heart a Sanskrit

26:48

word I found it interesting that Anahata

26:50

means also unstruck unbeaten unhurt it

26:54

reminded me of a song from long ago

26:57

unbreak on break my heart that place

27:00

where the heart is innocent and and full

27:04

of abundant love why did you choose to

27:07

name the album Anahata what does it mean

27:11

- exactly exactly I think you just said

27:15

it even

27:16

and I would have said it exactly that

27:22

it's that it's that sense of purity of

27:25

the heart just just that just a sense of

27:30

purity and like you said unstruck before

27:35

before it's it's touched and tarnished

27:38

just how we are in our true nature

27:41

beautiful I'd like to play a piece off

27:44

of the anahata album called moola mantra

27:46

would you like to share a few words

27:48

before we go into that title this is

27:52

really this is a really beautiful mantra

27:54

and it's it's really for calming it's a

27:58

real calming and bringing a sense of

28:01

peace and as all of these mantras the

28:05

the point of all of them as you will

28:07

start to study a bit about them is just

28:12

kind of this return to an end of

28:15

suffering that's kind of just a theme

28:16

that goes through or that runs through

28:18

all of them is different angles to come

28:21

to the end of suffering so that's the

28:25

point of this one is not the point

28:27

but that's one of one of the the

28:28

practices of it moola mantra by Tina

28:32

Maria

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leontina

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is with us here in studio today so Tina

32:10

you're speaking a lot are you sharing

32:12

with us very much exactly what I wanted

32:15

to ask you actually this you know the

32:17

world can be harsh at times we have some

32:19

some challenges that we need to face as

32:22

part of just being on the earth being

32:24

human and it's very natural for us to

32:27

close down in order to survive and yet

32:31

the album it talks really about living

32:34

with that wide open heart and so I was

32:38

just curious do you have a daily ritual

32:42

maybe even you know I know you know

32:45

you're gonna have the daily ritual of

32:46

course of mantra that helps you stay

32:50

with an open heart in that beautiful

32:53

presence that you have even though yeah

32:57

even though the fires are burning even

32:59

though we're facing a lot of challenges

33:02

as a humanity also and personally well

33:08

I'd hate to be a broken record you know

33:14

as I mentioned in the beginning of this

33:16

of this interview so are you tall is the

33:19

person who gave me this this mantra and

33:21

my daily practice and his teacher was

33:24

neem Karoli Baba so this was this was a

33:28

neem karoli baba pretty much his only

33:30

teaching you know he would just say

33:32

chant Rahm he didn't have books he

33:35

didn't have discourses and he would say

33:38

that all of your questions will be

33:39

answered there and you know like I said

33:43

having had this practice now for for

33:45

many years I can say that the truth at

33:48

that is very true for me as well that

33:51

there's it's it actually stops all the

33:54

questions and it kind of stops all the

33:56

searching for everything else because

33:58

they say that mantra is another form of

34:01

silence so it's bringing this this

34:05

feeling of sila

34:06

to everything so yes you're absolutely

34:08

right if the world is crazy right now

34:12

and I feel like what it does is it gives

34:16

this know I use this example of a well a

34:19

lot because that's what it feels like so

34:22

it's you know if you have if your being

34:29

is like this lake you know it's a link

34:31

and you have this internal source of

34:35

this beautiful pure water now everything

34:39

else that is I don't know where I'm

34:41

going with this metaphor I should've

34:43

thought before I do no pun intended you

34:50

know if if if you have this big empty

34:55

vessel and it's not filled at all with

34:58

any water let's just say since we're

35:00

using the water metaphor then whatever

35:02

comes along you know you can dump dirty

35:05

water into it or whatever it is and and

35:08

that's what its gonna hold but if you

35:10

have this this internal source of this

35:14

pure water then if it's filled to the

35:16

brim that's going to be filled with and

35:18

you can walk around the world with that

35:21

fullness I guess is what I'm trying to

35:23

say and it's a its own form of

35:25

protection so it's this sense now I'm

35:29

not perfect I would just like to say

35:31

that this is all you know I'm also very

35:33

human and go through all of my human

35:36

things but I do feel like it's this it's

35:38

a form of protection and it's a

35:40

protection of love I don't know how

35:42

better to explain it than that

35:43

for me personally and it is walking with

35:48

this knowledge that all these things are

35:50

happening and of course doing our best

35:53

to to to help to change to fight with

35:57

necessary but with this sense of

36:01

fullness in the sense of peace and I

36:03

think that's an important I think that's

36:06

really important you know especially for

36:08

those of us that do care about the

36:10

planet and the animals and the trees and

36:12

the water is in the air that we have an

36:16

ability to refill ourselves constant

36:19

because if if we can't do that then you

36:23

know we're screwed the thing is that our

36:34

bodies are 80% or 90% water and we are

36:38

breathing in the air right so we are we

36:41

also have that Stardust in our bodies so

36:44

I think I've you know I've spoken about

36:46

that often too is that we do have

36:48

choices that we get to make and we do

36:51

absorb frequency into that water so that

36:54

idea of the fresh water well the

36:57

wellspring which is literally where we

37:00

get the word wellness right from from

37:02

this well and this Wellspring that we do

37:05

have the choice to to create that high

37:08

vibrational field to feed ourselves not

37:12

only the news and the newspapers and the

37:15

worries and the pain which are apparent

37:18

and I'm not saying at all - you know

37:20

rise above it but to be part of it to be

37:24

in it but I also believe very much that

37:26

sound is a protective force if we we use

37:30

it wisely it's also force that can hurt

37:33

us if we don't use it wisely right but

37:35

it is a powerful medicine very very

37:39

powerful medicine are there any mantras

37:41

or you know people are starting out we

37:44

know that many people you know use oh

37:48

oops we're gonna go into a break teen

37:50

I'm not watching the clock I'm getting

37:52

carried away just stay tuned stay tuned

37:55

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sound mantras meditation and all

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is attributed to saying that to sing is

40:58

to pray twice do you feel that singing

41:01

is to pray yeah it sounds like the

41:15

intent or that is a space of singing

41:17

that we are experiencing while we're

41:19

listening to your music and that we all

41:22

have within ourselves singing absolutely

41:27

no I'm I'm completely on board with I

41:31

you know and it's a choice to of course

41:33

you can sing anything you want to and if

41:35

you what I have found and that's why

41:38

I've dedicated my life this direction is

41:41

when you choose to use your voice to

41:43

sing prayers in whatever language you

41:47

choose to or even if it's humming if it

41:49

really has that prayerful quality to it

41:53

what do we mean by prayerful everything

41:55

from you know gratitude a sense of

41:58

gratitude a sense of healing hope all of

42:02

these all these feelings that when

42:04

there's that intention behind it

42:06

sometimes the sound itself creates that

42:09

you don't even have to do it with your

42:10

mind the sound sound itself can be so

42:14

beautiful that it actually stops the

42:16

and brings those feelings and qualities

42:21

to you but I do find that when there's

42:25

that intention and again that's why I

42:27

love chanting mantra and I love doing

42:29

sacred music and conscious music it it

42:32

like you were talking about earlier it

42:34

does create this vibrational field we

42:38

are made of water it does literally tune

42:41

the water in our bodies to those

42:44

frequencies it's a real scientific fact

42:55

for this album tell me a little bit

43:01

about hey MA Durga before we go into

43:03

this track this is just in celebration

43:07

of the great mother the great mother of

43:09

compassion of fierce compassion mmm

43:12

serious compassion I love it here's Hema

43:14

durga off of the anahata album

43:33

Korona cigar imam Kali Kapali

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43:50

Kali ma

43:54

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43:58

jagged or Dyneema Jack I don't meet JJ

44:03

me

44:06

Jack I don't honey MA

44:11

JJ JJ JJ

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JJ

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[Applause]

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Hey

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45:07

kairi kairi on a cigar

45:22

golly

45:25

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45:31

calling me ma

45:35

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45:39

Jenna don't hurry NEMA jagged OHA Jayma

45:46

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45:48

juggled Otellini ma juggled only change

45:53

any mom juggle don't have any more

45:59

juggle all may change anymore

46:03

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46:04

ja ja da AGG

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46:23

that was Hema durga off of the anahata

46:26

album Bettina Maliha who's lucky as

46:31

she's with us in studio T now to share

46:34

with us share with us your secrets what

46:37

are some of your holistic practices and

46:38

mindsets that keep you so vibrantly

46:42

present I'll share with you all of my

46:47

secrets cara my first and foremost have

46:58

already shared so my second secret I

47:00

think the most important thing is diet

47:04

I find that my my body my vessel is very

47:08

very sensitive to everything I put into

47:11

it and it took me a long time to figure

47:13

that out and we really are not taught

47:16

that in the West how what we eat not

47:20

only affects our physical health but

47:22

really affects our mental health almost

47:24

first and foremost so I'm very careful

47:27

with that I mean I'm not like what's the

47:31

word I'm looking for

47:33

thank you I'm not a fanatic but I'm but

47:37

I'm very aware of what I have what I put

47:39

into my body everything from you know I

47:43

mean I'm vegetarian but I don't like

47:46

again I'm not of an I'm not a fanatic

47:48

but I have found also you know through

47:50

my own personal reasons that I want to

47:52

do that but also that it's any foods

47:54

that are very heavy really create a

47:56

heavy mindset for me as well create a

47:59

heaviness in my body everything you know

48:02

caffeine

48:03

I'm just very conscious of what I do so

48:06

that I keep I like to stay in a state of

48:11

no purity is not necessarily the word

48:13

I'm looking for but but in a state of

48:16

well-being like you were saying before

48:18

so that's a very important one for me is

48:22

is health I love cooking I love food I

48:25

love medicinal foods so that's kind of

48:27

my my secret life a lot of people kind

48:30

of joke with me that they know me as a

48:32

cook actually

48:34

like the world thinks you're a singer

48:36

but actually you're a cook so I love

48:39

doing art I'm very very into art so

48:42

anything that has to do with with art

48:45

and I love the earth so I I do

48:49

woodworking I have all these kind of

48:51

separate art projects and they are

48:54

really what keep me healthy I have to

48:57

see the world as art and if I can

49:01

approach any problem as art then I can

49:04

solve it having a really great time so

49:09

that's kind of how I approach everything

49:12

in life so what is your what is your

49:14

Sedona or your practice look like when

49:16

you get really busy when you're on tour

49:18

when you you yeah when you're when you

49:21

get so busy what is what do you make

49:25

sure that you get done so then you can

49:28

stay in balance with all your things

49:31

well you know it's that record it's that

49:34

broken record again for me because that

49:36

you know after so many years of Rob Rob

49:41

meditation you know like I was saying

49:44

earlier in that in that story it for the

49:48

first few weeks it didn't have a lot of

49:50

effect on me and then after months and

49:53

after years now it's something that if I

49:57

get a little frazzled and I feel myself

50:00

get frazzled all I have to do is just

50:02

you know put myself in timeout close my

50:07

eyes and touch into that well to that

50:10

very now well-trodden well of mine that

50:14

well trodden path of that of that

50:16

practice and within moments I'm really

50:22

right there again I I wait I do my

50:24

practice when I'm really busy okay we're

50:27

talking and I'm really busy running

50:29

around the world until I feel that well

50:33

refilling again and then once I feel

50:36

filled I'm like okay back to work and I

50:39

can kind of go back to what I'm doing

50:41

but that is what keeps me together in

50:45

every part of my life

50:47

yeah I think that many people don't

50:48

realize that music really it it anchors

50:50

itself everywhere in our body and in our

50:53

memory so the more you practice it can

50:55

be that it takes only 30 seconds or 10

50:58

minutes to just tap it in you don't need

51:01

that long long practice right I think

51:03

not to say that we don't enjoy long

51:06

practicing but many people are afraid I

51:08

think to start a practice because I

51:10

think I don't have the time but actually

51:12

every moment that you spend in that

51:14

practice of sound and Java mantra is

51:18

enchanting and and music or even

51:20

creativity is nurturing you and staying

51:23

in your memory and your body forever

51:26

forever and ever it's pretty phenomenal

51:30

do you know good internet address that

51:33

that your listeners can go to find more

51:35

about you out and find out more about

51:37

your concerts and retreats and buy some

51:41

music and connect with you just Tina

51:44

Melia comm ti na ma Li a.com okay now

51:51

think about this how can we use the

51:54

power of voice to heal humanity you know

52:11

I guess I'm gonna love my answer into

52:13

what you were just saying because I

52:15

wanted to say something about that about

52:16

the time I started giving workshops I

52:22

never meant to give workshops I always

52:24

only meant to be a singer

52:25

they're performers but but through this

52:28

last few years people have asked me to

52:30

start giving workshops on on all these

52:32

things that I talk about because I love

52:34

them so much something I love and I

52:36

really believe in so one of the things I

52:39

start people with is just to put a timer

52:42

on for 10 minutes that's it 10 minute

52:45

practice per day everyone has ten

52:47

minutes you know so anyone who says

52:49

they're too busy just put a timer on

52:54

your phone and pick something easy you

52:58

know pick something you resonate with

53:00

and whether it's and you're using your

53:03

voice

53:03

internally because the practice I do is

53:06

actually silent but I'm still I still

53:08

hear the word internally so it I think

53:11

it's still effective as as a sound

53:14

vibration so internally or you can do it

53:17

externally or like you said you know

53:21

doing music whether it's chanting or

53:24

some sort of practice like that that

53:26

really intentionally focuses the mind

53:29

for that that that time frame and I find

53:36

that all solutions to our problems can

53:40

come within those few moments because

53:42

actually within that within those

53:44

moments we realize that a lot of things

53:46

that we think our problems are not

53:47

actually problems they're just the mind

53:50

being allowed to run loose and mine is

53:54

not always our friend likes to tell us

53:57

all kinds of things that are not true

53:59

and things that are important that

54:01

aren't really important and so giving

54:05

yourself that time and that practice it

54:08

it changes you it really does it changes

54:12

how we see things it changes how you see

54:15

yourself it changes how you see the

54:17

world it brings a sense of peace and

54:20

calm to all situations and you learn how

54:24

and again I'm not perfect I would just

54:26

like to point out just so we're clear

54:29

that it at least gives you that tool so

54:34

that when the very intense challenges of

54:37

life come up you can remember this place

54:40

because you've given yourself that time

54:41

ten minutes a day to go there you're

54:43

like oh I remember this okay I have a

54:45

choice either to act violently or act or

54:51

stay in this pit of sadness forever

54:53

or I can return to this place that I

54:58

remember that I've been practicing every

55:00

single day because after doing it again

55:02

like we're saying ten minutes a day even

55:04

what happens is you start to become

55:07

familiar with that place so it's like a

55:09

room in your house and you that you

55:12

forgot you had you can go into that room

55:14

you can then remember that you have that

55:16

room so you have the choice which room

55:19

am I going to go into oh actually today

55:22

I'm gonna choose that one and I feel

55:26

that that is the start to a greater

55:29

healing of the planet in a sense because

55:32

it's all internal I mean how can we heal

55:35

anything external without healing it

55:37

internally it's impossible I mean maybe

55:40

it's not impossible but certainly it's

55:43

going to take all of us returning to

55:48

that place remembering love remembering

55:51

compassion remembering empathy and it's

55:53

so easy to point the finger at other

55:55

people it's gonna take all of us we have

55:59

the choice we have the choice let's do

56:03

it

56:03

or as of a dear friend of mine said

56:05

let's did it is so much with me for

56:09

being with me today here at voice rising

56:11

the wonderful prolific open-hearted

56:17

singer-songwriter Tina Malia I hope that

56:19

you will come back and grace the show

56:22

again with your presence thank you so

56:25

much Kara thank you everyone

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