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like the Knicks what three four years no
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things going great pretty nose no
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significant injuries no no no Andrews
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the maintenance stuff here and there
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yeah I have the pain you know every time
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yeah yeah I heard for about our after
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waiting to goes away and you know and
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back to know her well fast forward in
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1996 right you know I've been trying to
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get into the auto classic sure every
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year I competed 93 they would let me in
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94 they would let me steal the
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invitation okay still invitation only 90
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body would let me come to 96
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you know they finally say on the other I
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say you can you can you can be invited
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in 1997 you know okay so um you know the
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lip you just finished I just finally got
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a call out there to Libya yeah got me a
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place in that the Olympia I think I
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plays like 15 something like that so I'm
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like six love you yeah yeah now yeah so
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I'm giving for you know all plastic and
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it's the end of the year and it's like
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December somewhere round so it's a
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different time back then yeah okay so
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I'm you know my you know my normal
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workout that I always do go to Olympia
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you know take a couple weeks off get
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back into training right this this year
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all I can remember like it was yesterday
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I took my couple weeks off I get back
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into training you know I'm thinking that
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you know I'm just as strong as I was
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before I hear you know you know when I
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took off Bert
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John Rother don't work like this you
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lose that you lose a little bit of that
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strange so I'm squatting 600 you know I
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know I'm doing 600 for like 12 reps
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right really did no time at all yeah
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well you know I took those couple weeks
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off and I'm squatting 600 and I'm coming
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up on rep number 8 little shock to you
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remember the exact reps yeah yeah yeah I
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remember the exact really yes
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I'm coming up a red number eight now
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heal out yeah yeah and I'm thinking the
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guy that spotting me hit let me you know
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because you you see some of the video
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you'll see Brian hit me in the back of
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the neck define me up so I'm thinking no
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did you see because I saw I was
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struggling with ribbon Oh baby I'm
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thinking he hit me yeah so I dumped the
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way that to the way there was that loud
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pop he's like I don't know but I heard
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it - yeah my I'm soon as I said that I
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heard I felt this this pain just go all
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way down my leg and all the way down to
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my foot yeah like I guess I'm done with
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button yeah so I go and do my leg press
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you know yeah so you say don't work out
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fuse work out give my let my hamstrings
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or whatever so with the hose not really
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I mean it's just a Norman egg you know I
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always have I like to say I hurt after
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every day or a gap you know but it goes
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away and bout it now yeah yeah so I've
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no nothing like super concerning you
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know nobody none super case I mean no
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just felt like your tweaks on yes feel
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like I tweak some maybe but I would like
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ma'am I said I went and did my neck
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pressing you know and no problem there
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and did my hamstring no problem there so
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I go home do my number routine take
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shower give me a bite to eat you put on
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my uniform I'm going to work yeah I'll
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sip on this day by the time I do all of
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that the pain is gone yeah this thing's
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gonna last for minutes oh yeah yeah good
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yeah this day to paint one going kept
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calm so yeah it kept coming to kept just
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like you're getting worse nice something
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wrong yeah this ain't normal
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no by the time I put my uniform on and
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get in my car and go to work the pain is
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gone yeah
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this day it wouldn't go on are they okay
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sons wrong so instead of me going to
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work I remembered so when I get out of
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here I make a left and now I make a
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right and you know
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and right is going to work yep that day
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I like I'm one with the ocular so I go
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to hospital and they take all these
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tests they night man yeah I mean the
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whole time I was there the pain got
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worse worse and worse and they giving me
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like shots and they're giving me pills
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for pain
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nothing's helping me I mean the path
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seemed like the more shots and more
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pills they gave me the worst step pain
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guy I'm like something's wrong so
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there's like we know we did the x-ray we
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can't find that knew we did all these
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those tests we couldn't find anything so
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we got sitting home in I'm like I'm
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feeling my pain hey where we guess we
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got some prescription for you we can get
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you some medication so I go home you
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know and the pain got worse
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yep you got to the point where I
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couldn't even sleep yeah I didn't even
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know upstairs that night I loose my pain
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I couldn't get up there so I slept on
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the on the floor downstairs oh I'm like
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man this is some pain yeah you know this
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is a pain I'm too busy with my life yeah
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so called doctor dick day they're like
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well you probably need to get anymore
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I'm like okay let's get to it right now
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so I'm not going to work Crum still in
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pain you know and this pain is not going
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away you gotta be on your feet at work
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yeah yeah I gotta be on my feet you know
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so I go in for the MRI and get the
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results back they're like oh you gotta
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for sure I got the plastic coming up
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they'll a whale
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you can you have surgery yeah or you can
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rehabilitate yourself right I'm like
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well I have a surgery I got sure anytime
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yeah I gotta so I gotta be ready for for
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the next 200 for the next two weeks I
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didn't I didn't go Jim I think I was in
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too much pain
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yeah sure so I just have to trust a down
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now it's there's I didn't even go you'll
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be I stepped on the floor for like the
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next two weeks and after they told me
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they said well I said I'm gonna
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rehabilitate him so I I wanna talk about
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the every single day you know and
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after two weeks I'm like okay lighten up
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a little bit I like okay
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lighten up enough me to go back to gym
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right so I went back to show Oh see that
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happened like December 15 14 somewhere
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around now okay so for the next two
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weeks okay I think I went back um far
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around the first week of January so I
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still have some time yeah you know for
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the show okay so that's what I did I
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went back Jim the first thing I do is
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pop of course you did of course yeah big
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to feel you know they can write in get
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an interview football you go out and
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just hit someone right away I go back to
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squats and get rid of this field squat
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knee so what kind of weight did you use
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this time III with the house I went with
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three plates okay
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so 300 315 so half yeah can't do six
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hungry still in pain you know it's be a
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real big news I gotta get ready for this
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show would you say you trained like just
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much lighter a muzzle a whole lot
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lighter make sure you could make it yeah
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all right so there's there's the next
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big thing an injury so eventually did it
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kind of just you took some time off
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after you Arnold it went away it went
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away
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yeah all the pain everything you know
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I'm back to know all good doing your
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chiropractor trio yeah go on cap rock by
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every day I'm doing massages and
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everything right now did you have
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another flare-up or injury no before you
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one note the Olympia for the first time
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nope never
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okay so let's so we you know we know
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everyone knows half in 1998 kind of came
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out of nowhere one that Olympia and then
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you know but you know what what a lot of
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people don't know is I I was still a lot
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of pain back in those days I'm sure I
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remember my first Olympia I'm backstage
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and I'm sitting down resting and I go
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and get up and my whole leg my whole
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left side just lock up 98 oh man
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well it's what you want yeah yeah that's
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when I want you know once you honey this
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goes away so I found out that I can't
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sit back sit down you know backstays I
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gotta stay standing up cuz I do you know
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don't lock oh yeah so from that point on
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I just I just didn't rest I can sit down
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for a few minutes right I just can't sit
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down for that male still yeah yeah okay
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so that's what I would do I just take
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you know a few minutes here in there
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right yeah my body wouldn't lock up
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right okay so you win 98 99 2000 we know
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the whole run all the way through any
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significant issue from 1980 to 2005
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standard stuff it flared up every now
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and then you had a little pain you have
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the whole come on chiropractor kept get
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my massage and everything and they they
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came up some some some some new stuff
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new stuff new machines call it was is it
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was a this decompression okay I've done
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that yet traction yeah yeah tractor and
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that kind of like heal me yeah that's
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great yeah I love traction it kind of
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like I didn't even have a pain and
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nothing Falls the discs apart yeah yeah
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can get them back in the place yeah yeah
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kind of like put the fluid and stuff
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yeah yeah that allows it to slide back
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in yeah instead of being out of place
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yeah yeah it's a great treatment so I'm
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like you're doing good yeah oh really
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all of a sudden yeah when's an extra
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doctor it's like a man oh I'm getting
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rid of these traction machine yeah yeah
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yeah this is like 2006 of 2007 somewhere
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in there right and all of a sudden I
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started getting worse again yeah so he
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got rid of those machines
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oh I started getting worried I thought
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you're saying you took him from and put
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them in your house how easy yeah if I
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had known what I knew now back then now
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how would it be I would
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you know you know I'm doing good so I'm
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like okay well I'm healed you're right I
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don't need that traction right needless
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to say I did need yeah and my body just
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deteriorated you know from that point on
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yeah
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Oh 607 yeah I just got got worse and
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worse
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okay so that so what was that so that's
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that when you had your first significant
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surgery Oh 707 what was that a neck uh
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no that was my back
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was it the back down below yeah yeah
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honey ate this okay the doctor one that
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finally yeah yeah want one yeah once I
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got off that traction machine yeah
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though this kind of like came together
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and just started sticking out more and
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this thought that got to the point where
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I was just pushing on my nerves and I
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wasn't getting zero like my circulation
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was real bad no relief in it yeah I mean
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I was in so much pain that I couldn't
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even walk yeah I bet so I like okay it's
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time to have surgery yeah I want the
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doctor he's like yeah this it's about
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time yeah it's time we could do yeah
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okay so that's when I had my first one
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and that was like remember the number
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three four three and four okay it was
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just a fusion
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no no they call it color laminectomy
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okay
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what they do is it that part there
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sticking out right shave it off okay so
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you know so how was that
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rehab recovery actually uh uh uh I was
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like almost like back to 100%
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yeah right away so they shaved it off
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and you know I went back training real
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hard oh yeah oh yeah I know I took
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beyond we all think come back yeah I got
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you know is ain't stored looking good
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feeling good and like say that that
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traction there's like nope yeah no
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you're not you're not completely healed
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right you know and all of a sudden you
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know my dis just started they all
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started fuck yeah honey made the surgery
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so I had to have another surgery okay so
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we had another so we can when was the
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second one so the first one was Oh 8 the
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first one the first one was those seven
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like December so basically yeah the next
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was a
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like two years later okay what was that
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all the same thing Oh different dish it
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was kind of like like they call it a
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decommissioned decompression okay what
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are you going in and that's your lower
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back though yeah same thing actually
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this is the like that dish above that
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okay so you're like five or something
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yeah uh-huh okay so we had that one and
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then what's the next cuz we're starting
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right yeah yeah yeah yeah all the dishes
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starting yeah honey right and so they do
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another one the SEP the next surgery
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they they put in screws okay
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they put in like four screws and all of
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a sudden you know I'm doing good and
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still working out somewhere along the
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way did you show that broke at that
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point did you stop doing like super
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heavy stuff yeah I mean I dialed it back
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yeah you 910 yeah there yeah 1112
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million no back squatting yeah yeah
13:45
mostly just I didn't actually do any no
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I will not compete no no dad listen but
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no deadlift and then nothing so he got
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the point where you know I couldn't do
13:59
all this stuff no more right so I kind
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of like backed off of it and yet to
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normal right just a trained leg fourth
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leg extension there wasn't even any more
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no no so okay so we're all the way up to
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what like ten eleven yeah okay then what
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was I know you had a neck things is that
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next in line one yeah the neck was 11
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okay you know I had fusion right four
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five and six okay
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and and that worked out real good that
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was you never had any issues from that
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I'm not right no all good oh yeah good
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okay so that one never had any problems
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know that whenever it in between things
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right yeah and then the next big one
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would have to be when when I was with
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you Bobby right like 12 I think yeah
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when they win a in put all those screws
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okay and then after that the next one we
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had hips in between there so he had
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double hip surgery yeah yeah that turned
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out okay yeah
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like 13 14 as I say I was with you then
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yeah and I remember because you were
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with an apple yeah the time in Canada
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yeah I was walking or dying man I'm
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really wrong yeah I remember like yeah
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you know you know I went got some
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treatment it didn't do anything yeah I
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like okay I gotta go see doctor yeah
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yeah soand doc say oh yeah hey so here
15:12
these dead they're gone yeah he's like
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and then as you do they they you broken
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bone on bone yep yeah those place that
15:20
was a tough trip yeah yeah no Danny had
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a double hip right you knew you're a
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maniac so you did one and then did
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another one like two weeks later right
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just get it done right though get out of
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the way by the way okay so I remember
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you're actually cool after that like you
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have a little gift going on just from
15:38
them them being new and getting used to
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it right yeah we were in Tampa we did a
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YouTube event there with with Elliott
15:44
Hulse and I remember his channel we did
15:45
all that daily and Bailey was there we
15:46
did a whole little thing ever in Tampa
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yeah we're cool we trained yeah right
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yeah and you know you were still having
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that little like just hobble just from
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getting used to the the under hips and
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everything but you were pretty good
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right yeah not even in too much pain
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right just not like no no no pain at all
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yeah yeah I remember you were xxi
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penguin Donal feeling really good yeah
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feeling good and then we were done
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you went back home and then you went to
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like Russia yeah and it was there that
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something really bad happened yeah just
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came off the plane I came off the plane
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and you know I was walking fine and I
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remember they got me to the hotel and I
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started walking all right yeah I'm in a
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lot of pain yeah it just kind of
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happened that was the first day I got
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there all right second day I got there
16:29
I'm like I'm stealing a lot of pain
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going on and like the third day I
16:35
couldn't I could be well I remember yeah
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yeah it's all getting worse and worse
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every single day and so so I get back
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home and I'm like okay I want straight
16:44
doc yeah yeah coming to find out you
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know screws that broke right so in the
16:50
process though breaking they broke some
16:53
bones in the back okay so that and so
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that's what you guys will see on the
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screen here is
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the screws that were in there yeah for
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that we're holding the other we're fine
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yep they finally they couldn't take the
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time as the stress or the yeah they
17:05
couldn't take it anymore and they want
17:06
to well I will see I kind of like
17:07
working out dumbbell shrugs but they
17:12
decided I sign out confound the screw
17:15
they put in were meant for a normal
17:17
person that not a bodybuilder yeah if
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you guys can see it on the screen there
17:25
and it pulled a piece of the vertebrae
17:27
yeah right and that is what's really I
17:29
mean the whole lead-up that we've been
17:31
talking about is the lead-up to what's
17:33
going on but that is the single one that
17:35
really had like the the worst effect oh
17:37
yeah the world has a whole piece came
17:39
off and then it's been like trying to
17:41
fix it ever since right yeah it hasn't
17:42
really been and we went back and they
17:44
did this major surgeon I was there yep
17:46
came down 13 hours crazy and easily kind
17:49
of like redid my whole back yeah and I
17:51
will put those pictures up to there's a
17:53
there's a shot of the screws yeah big
17:55
crazy big screw ups and boats yeah so
17:59
they grew now yeah right yeah and then
18:00
they got this cage that kind of like guy
18:02
got two spoons Jim yeah yeah and so that
18:05
was the very last one yeah now we're up
18:07
to date that was like 15 and 14 14 14
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yeah and so you know pretty long rehab
18:14
process after that I came to the
18:16
hospital for a month we did that whole
18:17
series and when I came down and film to
18:19
be in there mm-hm and you know at what
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point how long after that did you really
18:26
feel like man it's not really recovering
18:28
the way I'd hoped and it just kind of
18:29
just stayed stagnant right yeah like six
18:32
months or a year it never got back to
18:35
Nome I'm just I was just in pain yeah
18:38
the whole time I remember
18:41
yeah I'm still in a lot of pain yeah and
18:43
that's what this next artist for right
18:45
to relieve the pain roads come to find
18:48
out we went in one day and did a
18:50
hardware hardware
18:55
release shot where they go in they
18:58
inject some kind of
19:01
pain medication in there and this was
19:05
called a hardware block okay what it's
19:07
called and if your pain goes away it
19:10
works if the screws was what causing all
19:13
the pain oh and it did go away and in
19:15
the pain went away like that's how old
19:18
they yeah yeah so they found the source
19:21
um all my pain is from those six screws
19:25
take a big-ass screwin take six of them
19:28
and Jamie move into someone's spine yeah
19:30
I'd imagine there's a good chance
19:31
there's gonna be lingering some kind of
19:33
pain impact but yeah it had to be done
19:35
right you had me done had to be done so
19:36
this would hold up right or they
19:38
wouldn't even know what a fusion
19:39
wouldn't hail it up yeah you could have
19:40
I mean possible like yeah like paralysis
19:44
right yeah it was a real thing right you
19:45
know and that had to be done and that's
19:46
why I think a lot of people don't
19:47
understand they don't this whole meet up
19:49
we talked about it know the reasons why
19:50
and the real reasons why it happened
19:52
yeah I'm not like you know I'll rise one
19:54
on Ronny still training in his 50s when
19:56
he's knows that yeah not much to do with
19:58
another really like an old injury that
20:00
was from training but the lead up to it
20:02
and there the spot that you're in right
20:05
now is really just unlucky you have a
20:07
circumstance right just bad luck oh yeah
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those screws going in breaking yeah one
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breaking bad luck right now all that
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kind of stuff kind of just enough missed
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everything yeah exactly so
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you
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